Are you using the right screwdriver?

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  • schooltech
    School District Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2008
    • 504

    #31
    Ha!! I also use a 12" Snap On. Taking the foot long out of the bag can get a funny response from someone that has never seen it before. My response is usually, "It's all about the torque!!" Depending on who it is, I can take it a bit further, but I have to watch what I say!!!!!!

    Actually, I've used this same driver for about six or seven years, and have yet to change anything on it, like a new tip. It truly bites, and when accompanied with my 5.5 mm driver, there isn't much that can't be tackled.

    I think that most of us have what's comfortable for our daily needs. My shop tools are not very nice, but for the in-house work, it is fine for what I need them for.
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    • philjessen
      Technician
      • Jun 2012
      • 10

      #32
      Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

      Image Supply stocks both the Vessel and Hozan lines of JIS Phillips screwdrivers and their own 5.5mm nutdrivers with strong magnetics and small diameter sockets in 8" and 5" blade lengths. Image Supply Service

      Phil

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      • Iowatech
        Not a service manager

        2,500+ Posts
        • Dec 2009
        • 3930

        #33
        Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

        If you can find inch size sockets, a quarter inch drive 7/32" socket will work just as well as a 5.5 mm one. I've been using the same 7/32" socket for years, and the socket came in a Stanley ratcheting screwdriver set.
        Back in the day, when I inherited my first tool kit from the tech I replaced, it contained an "Acme" phillips head screwdriver bit. That worked perfectly in even screws that were somewhat damaged or manufactured sloppily. But I'm pretty sure that is only available from "Snap-On" tools and the like, so I'd guess there's a hefty sum to be paid for one of those.
        If all else fails and the screw head gets stripped out, most of the time I can just grab it with my diagonal cutters and pop it loose, and then use pretty much any screwdriver to remove it the rest of the way. Doing it that way requires a rich selection of miscellaneous hardware in your "small pieces that can get easily lost if dropped" collection, though.

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        • AyJayAreDii
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jul 2010
          • 99

          #34
          Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

          I have never seen the screws with a dot? but is that not just a plain old pz#2 screw?

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          • CraigW
            Trusted Tech

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            250+ Posts
            • Dec 2010
            • 417

            #35
            Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

            Originally posted by AyJayAreDii
            I have never seen the screws with a dot? but is that not just a plain old pz#2 screw?
            The JIS tips fit so much better in these screws over a #2.

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            • CSI
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Oct 2008
              • 73

              #36
              Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

              "The best" screwdriver in a spinner 5,5 :



              impossible to damaging a head

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              • Hansoon
                Field Supervisor

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                • Sep 2007
                • 3347

                #37
                Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                What Le Fuck?

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                • CSI
                  Technician

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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 73

                  #38
                  Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                  If you prefere :








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                  • Lagonda
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1649

                    #39
                    Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                    I'll drag this one out of the cellar,

                    Who sells JIS screwdrivers in Oz?

                    I've tried all the major dealers and a few manufactures but so far no one has offered to sell me one. Any leads?
                    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                    • NeoMatrix
                      Senior Tech.

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3514

                      #40
                      Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                      Originally posted by Lagonda
                      I'll drag this one out of the cellar,

                      Who sells JIS screwdrivers in Oz?

                      I've tried all the major dealers and a few manufactures but so far no one has offered to sell me one. Any leads?

                      <dust> <dust> <dust>.... wooshssh... Just blowing the dust and cobwebs off this post.

                      I always thought that screw heads are either PK (pozidrive?) or Phillips....
                      You can angle grind the tip off PK drivers and use them as a Phillips drivers, or is it visa-versa.

                      Some Web search Trivia for those:
                      screw drive systems

                      revlimiter.net Store - JIS Japanese Industry Standard screwdrivers by Vessel.

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                      • sturmtrooper
                        Copier Combobulator

                        500+ Posts
                        • May 2016
                        • 587

                        #41
                        Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                        Makes sense since they machines are mostly made in Japan. Of course to make it more confusing in the areas of the manual where Ricoh states what tools you'll need they just say a phillips driver.

                        Also I'm not sure if the dot always indicates that it's a JIS screw because I've seen screws in Ricohs that had zero dots and some that had two and I bet I'd find some that had one.

                        Ricoh: Imagine clear as mud.

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                        • Lagonda
                          Service Manager

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                          • Aug 2008
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                          #42
                          Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                          Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                          Makes sense since they machines are mostly made in Japan. Of course to make it more confusing in the areas of the manual where Ricoh states what tools you'll need they just say a phillips driver.

                          Also I'm not sure if the dot always indicates that it's a JIS screw because I've seen screws in Ricohs that had zero dots and some that had two and I bet I'd find some that had one.

                          Ricoh: Imagine clear as mud.
                          Well you are talking about a company that can call a part by one name in the service manual, another in the parts manual and some thing completely different in the training manual.
                          Consistently inconstant.
                          At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                          • slimslob
                            Retired

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                            • May 2013
                            • 36745

                            #43
                            Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                            Originally posted by Lagonda
                            Well you are talking about a company that can call a part by one name in the service manual, another in the parts manual and some thing completely different in the training manual.
                            Consistently inconstant.
                            We need a laugh button.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

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                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22927

                              #44
                              Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                              Originally posted by Lagonda
                              Well you are talking about a company that can call a part by one name in the service manual, another in the parts manual and some thing completely different in the training manual.
                              Consistently inconstant.
                              I noticed this in some of the Kyocera manuals. Different technical writer groups prepared different parts of the manual. So if you look in the Location of Electrical Parts diagram that sensor will be called one thing, but if you look in the Mechanical Description Section or the Parts Manual it could be called something altogether different. It's left me scratching my head on several occasions. Sometimes too, a spring or sensor is deemed unnecessary further down the road, so there's a nice picture or description of something that no longer exists in the machine. All that's left is a sensor mount, or a couple of loops where a spring may have been once. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                              • anothertech
                                Service Manager

                                Site Contributor
                                1,000+ Posts
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1756

                                #45
                                Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                                This one works good and has a good handle and nice length.
                                For $8.50 you can't go wrong.

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