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  • PressingPrintz
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    So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

    So long story short- I messed up and cleared all my SP data on my Ricoh MP C3002.

    Yes I know It's a big no-no.

    I would like to know what are my options now? Is there a way to restore? Or am I screwed?
  • anothertech
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    Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

    Is there a data sheet under the instructions sheet on the inside of the front door?

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    • Codex
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      Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

      If you have another MPC3002 you can restore the data from there, changing the serial number (gives sc995 the first time you turn the machine on).

      If not, your machine should work anyway, the memory clear resets all the values to factory reset, before they set some values and print the sheet that you'll find in the front door.


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      • sandmanmac
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        Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

        Originally posted by PressingPrintz
        So long story short- I messed up and cleared all my SP data on my Ricoh MP C3002.

        Yes I know It's a big no-no.

        I would like to know what are my options now? Is there a way to restore? Or am I screwed?
        You haven't even said how screwed up it is (if at all)?

        You may just have to set your preferred settings back the way you (or the customer) wants them.
        The biggest issue with a full memory clear (in my experience) tends to be a background when copying or scanning in colour that can be difficult to resolve if you don't have the non-default page, but if that's not the case, it's often not that a big deal

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        • PressingPrintz
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          Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

          Yes I see it here. So would I simply have to go through line by line to get it back to where it was before?


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          • anothertech
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            Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

            Yes, just put all those values back in and reboot. Probably should run auto calibration under maintenance after that.

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            • PressingPrintz
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              • slimslob
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                Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                Originally posted by PressingPrintz
                Yes I see it here. So would I simply have to go through line by line to get it back to where it was before?


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                To get it back to where it was when it left the factory configuration center. You should then clean the optics and ID sensor assembly. When those are clean run Printer SP 1103-002, Color Pattern. All colors should be aligned. If not then run Color Registration in User Tool Maintenance. If you get an error, either the ID sensor is dirty, bad or has been previously replaced and the values of SP3-362-013 and SP3-362-016 from the Birth Certificate are no longer valid. Finally run all Auto Color Calibration first for copy then for print.

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                • sandmanmac
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                  Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                  As Tim said, first make sure the ID sensors are cleaned. If you still have an alignment issue, then many, many years ago I came across a post on this site describing a procedure to align colours when the basic Line position adjustment failed.
                  It was originally relating to the old MP C2500/3500 or C2800/3300, but I've used it on more than a few occasions for other models as well -including the MP Cxx02 series and even '03's.

                  I refer to it as the Advanced Line Position Adjustment.

                  Here's the text I save from that thread:

                  • NOTES: Resetting ACC is that the calibration is written on top of the last calibration over and over. Therefore it becomes corrupt at some point, so the factory recall sets it back to default so you get a fresh start.


                  - ACC Recall SP5-610-4

                  - ACC Recall SP1-101-1 in Printer SP

                  - Process Control SP3-011-1

                  - Process Control Result SP3-012 -> 11111111 (Eg: 11(Y)11(C)11(M)11(K)
                  Note:Printer SP

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                    Libe position on the Y and M may be too far out for ACC to pull them back in. If Sandy's steps are unable to pull it back in, you may have to do a manual adjustment. Start by using SP2-109-003 to print test patterns 1 Vertical Line (1dot) and 3 Horizontal Line (1dot). When aligned you would see single black Vertical and Horizontal lines. Instead you will see a black line with a yellow and a magenta line next to it. By changing values in SP2-101 you can move the position of the lines. Start with -002 Main Dot Magenta. Change by 100, either way and print the test patterns. You will then see what direction and amount the magenta line has moved. From there you can make a rough guess as to the real change that needs to be made to both magenta and yellow. -004 is for Main Dot Yellow and -006 and -008 are for the sub-line. You don't have to get them exact, just close enough for Forced Line Adjustment can handle it.

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                    • PressingPrintz
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                      Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                      Originally posted by sandmanmac
                      As Tim said, first make sure the ID sensors are cleaned. If you still have an alignment issue, then many, many years ago I came across a post on this site describing a procedure to align colours when the basic Line position adjustment failed.
                      It was originally relating to the old MP C2500/3500 or C2800/3300, but I've used it on more than a few occasions for other models as well -including the MP Cxx02 series and even '03's.

                      I refer to it as the Advanced Line Position Adjustment.

                      Here's the text I save from that thread:

                      • NOTES: Resetting ACC is that the calibration is written on top of the last calibration over and over. Therefore it becomes corrupt at some point, so the factory recall sets it back to default so you get a fresh start.


                      - ACC Recall SP5-610-4

                      - ACC Recall SP1-101-1 in Printer SP

                      - Process Control SP3-011-1

                      - Process Control Result SP3-012 -> 11111111 (Eg: 11(Y)11(C)11(M)11(K)
                      Note:Printer SP

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                        Now make sure the optics are clean then run Auto Color Calibration in User Tools. Here is another document that might help. Service Program (SP) Settings.pdf

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                        • PressingPrintz
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                          Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Now make sure the optics are clean then run Auto Color Calibration in User Tools. Here is another document that might help. [ATTACH]61846[/ATTACH]
                          Yes- Optics were cleaned and auto color calibration was performed but still producing mottled blacks.

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                          • PressingPrintz
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                            Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                            I followed the service bulletin and still getting mottled blacks. I also re-cleaned the optics as well.


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                            • Larhal
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                              Re: So I messed up... What are my options? MP C3002

                              Originally posted by PressingPrintz
                              I followed the service bulletin and still getting mottled blacks. I also re-cleaned the optics as well.


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                              Looks like the developer is spoiled or old. Try another know good developer unit. What happens when you force feed the K developer?
                              Larhal

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                              If all else fails read the Service Manual!

                              If that fails, meet me at the pub and we will discuss it.

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