PMs - Kits and Assemblys

[rwynne]

Greetings!

I just wanted to try and pick the brains out there of all you techs that use supply fusers in different machines. My company does use the supply fusers for the MPC3500/4500, but are we missing an opportunity for faster service calls by not taking advantage of other similar situations that we are simply unaware of?

Any information towards that, or even just assembly's that are comparable to the price of the PM kit itself. We run mostly MPC 3500 / 4500. MPC 4000, and then the MP 3001,4001,5001.

[mrwho]

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Greetings!

I just wanted to try and pick the brains out there of all you techs that use supply fusers in different machines. My company does use the supply fusers for the MPC3500/4500, but are we missing an opportunity for faster service calls by not taking advantage of other similar situations that we are simply unaware of?

Any information towards that, or even just assembly's that are comparable to the price of the PM kit itself. We run mostly MPC 3500 / 4500. MPC 4000, and then the MP 3001,4001,5001.

Maybe I'm just dumb (which probably most people here on the forum will tell you it's true), but I haven't got the faintest idea of what you're looking for.

[sandmanmac]

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Maybe I'm just dumb (which probably most people here on the forum will tell you it's true), but I haven't got the faintest idea of what you're looking for.

I second that emotion. I haven't a clue either.

[collme]

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make that 3 of us

[Debs1964]

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Can I join the party and say I don't understand either, but I seldom understand anything anyway

[sandmanmac]

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Can I join the party and say I don't understand either, but I seldom understand anything anyway

Absolutely! You can never have too many ladies at a party!

[Debs1964]

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Absolutely! You can never have too many ladies at a party!

Strange that, but I think exactly the opposite

[collme]

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I am sure Debs would be the life and soul of a party lol

[JustManuals]

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Maybe I'm just dumb (which probably most people here on the forum will tell you it's true), but I haven't got the faintest idea of what you're looking for.

Oh goody, I thought it was just me that didn't get the question or comment. I've got a manual for that.

[Counsel]

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I think what he means at least from what i understand is that he uses the already built fuser kits for the one machine mentioned because its about 10$ more for the whole fuser then to buy the parts individually and spend an hour rebuilding the fuser, plus the kit comes with a ptr so thats probably your 10$. I think he is asking if its worth buying the whole kits for the other models and saving time rebuilding or is it still cheaper to just rebuild the other fusers.

I know that my company still rebuilds pretty much all the fusers except for the c2000/2500/3000 but i just rebuilt my first 3001/3501 fuser today and I am definatly going to find out what the kit costs vs rebuild cause that fuser sucks balls, not to mention after i rebuild the thing i found out the picker bar was eliminated so i get to take it back apart and remove that.

[Larryo]

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I think what rwynne is referring to is the use of the SPC811dn printer fuser assmbly in the MPC35/4500 (supply item from Ricoh, not part) It is about thirty to fourty dollars cheaper than the part number called for in the MPC35/4500 rebuid kit. Half the cost of the assembly itslef. You have to move one pin on the connecter but it's super easy. rwynne, are you asking if anyone knows similiar tricks on other models?

[Counsel]

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Ya the 811 fuser is the only one we buy whole and swap the wire pin, all others at this point we still pull apart. i wish we bought whole kits but at the same time when a fuser belt gets a mark in it at 50k i personally hate throwing away that much stuff because we dont stock the individual parts for it.

[logrady2331]

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What we do here is replace the fuser belt and oil supply/cleaning roller when needed. We do that until the heat or press start to fail and then replace with the supply item. As far as not using all the parts in the kit, there are two schools of thought. From a technical standpoint is is always recommended to put the kit in (all of it) when the PM cycle comes due. I have over twenty seven years of field and management experience and can tell you that if you do your PM's ON TIME, regardless of parts condition, your life will be much simpler. Doing PM's with the correct kit, using OEM supplies only and adhereing to PM schedules is the only way to go in the long run. The problem we all run in to is that 99 percent of dealerships are owned by sales types and not even God can convince them to run a "heavy" program. By that I mean do the pm's when you should. I worked at a delarship twenty years ago in Oklahoma that believed in on time PM's. We set the maintenance count to half the pm cycle. When the light went off we did a "mini" pm (cleaning) and then the kit at the next light. It takes awhile to see the results of runing a heavy maintenance progam but emergency calls are minimal and we all know the less we see machines the happier everyone is. Now all you have to do is convince the owners to spend the money on the kits. Good luck with that one.

[Oze]

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We use the printer kits for the MPC3500/4500 .....also MPC4000/5000 and MP4000/5000.
The mods are only pin outs and pretty easy.

[rwynne]

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The printer kits that you use for the MP 4000 / 5000, are those also the 811dn kits?