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  • javaman7471
    Service manager/Tech
    • Jan 2012
    • 16

    #1

    background on colorcopy but not print jobs

    I am working on an Ricoh MPC4500 that will have a pinkish/gray background on color copies but internal print jobs look fine. I was told that an all clear was performed in SP mode and I do not have birth certificate for machine, is there any way to return it to normal functions. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
  • turbojetboy
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Aug 2009
    • 279

    #2
    Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

    Thats classic all clear problem, probably got bad colour alignments and tray regos and a bunch of other stuff out as well. Best bet would be to get another birth certificate (from another mpc4500) and pay close attention to all the shading values and items relating to the scanning section. Good luck.

    Doing an all clear without first backing up the NVram data to SD card is one of the most stupid things a tech (or other) can do.

    PS: you did check behind the jam location cover thats attached to the front main door for the birth cert - didnt you?

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    • javaman7471
      Service manager/Tech
      • Jan 2012
      • 16

      #3
      Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

      Yes I checked behind jam removal chart on front door, so if I can get another birth certificate from a different machine which settings in particular will I need to look at. Previous tech did do the all clear without backing up any data, that is correct. Thanks again. JV
      Originally posted by turbojetboy
      Thats classic all clear problem, probably got bad colour alignments and tray regos and a bunch of other stuff out as well. Best bet would be to get another birth certificate (from another mpc4500) and pay close attention to all the shading values and items relating to the scanning section. Good luck.

      Doing an all clear without first backing up the NVram data to SD card is one of the most stupid things a tech (or other) can do.

      PS: you did check behind the jam location cover thats attached to the front main door for the birth cert - didnt you?

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      • rsyarcia
        Hair Straightener Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Feb 2008
        • 711

        #4
        Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

        start in performing the force line adjustment
        Nobody is perfect..

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        • javaman7471
          Service manager/Tech
          • Jan 2012
          • 16

          #5
          Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

          Color registration is not off colors line up great, just has a background, also if I reduce to 65% background is only in image area, white around reduced image is perfectly white still.
          Originally posted by rsyarcia
          start in performing the force line adjustment

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          • neergish
            Trusted Tech

            100+ Posts
            • Feb 2008
            • 177

            #6
            Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

            Is there a change when you have the Auto density sensor turned off or on?

            Reset the SP 4689m 4686, 4687 - 001 and 002 to whats on a birth cert, other wise fiddle randomly with these setings until you get it right. there s a thread on this somewhere here but I'm too lazy to search.

            "See if you can rent a spring hook and a phillips screwdriver it will make your life that much easier..."

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            • slimslob
              Retired

              Site Contributor
              25,000+ Posts
              • May 2013
              • 37515

              #7
              Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

              One of the things that we do here on every service call is to always print the Non-default report SP 5990-006 on machines where it is available. Otherwise, we print the SP settings. Always save at least one from every machine. Can be used in the absence of the birth certificate.

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              • ruben
                The New Guy

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2012
                • 1203

                #8
                Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                No two machines are alike, but you can use another as a base for reinputting the cleared settings.

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                • Exok
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 750

                  #9
                  Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                  Sometimes the simple solutions are what people forget. Make sure your optics are clean.

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                  • Counsel
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 529

                    #10
                    Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                    Not sure if this model does it or not but on some of the new models now Ricoh made a spot for the birth cert behind the scanner white board, if you might just check, remove the white board and look in there.

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                    • Polarbear
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1070

                      #11
                      Originally posted by neergish
                      Is there a change when you have the Auto density sensor turned off or on?

                      Reset the SP 4689m 4686, 4687 - 001 and 002 to whats on a birth cert, other wise fiddle randomly with these setings until you get it right. there s a thread on this somewhere here but I'm too lazy to search.

                      http://www.commercebusinesssystems.co.uk/support/
                      +1

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                      • techsass
                        Trusted Tech

                        Site Contributor
                        100+ Posts
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 248

                        #12
                        Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                        It's been awhile since I've seen this and I always had the Birth Cert, but what you want to adjust is the Gray Balance - Book. It defaults in the 40s and you want to set it in the 60s. There's 2 or 3 Sp's for this in the upper 4xxx of Sp mode.

                        Sorry I can't remember which ones exactly as I just compared it to the Birth cert.

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                        • Bantams
                          Senior Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 603

                          #13
                          Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                          4685-1 to -73
                          4685-2 to -73

                          4686-1 to -58
                          4686-2 to -58

                          4687-1 to -66
                          4687-2 to -66

                          the above should work I carry a copy of the Factory sheet in my folder For times like this.

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                          • Eric1968
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2458

                            #14
                            Re: background on colorcopy but not print jobs

                            Originally posted by javaman7471
                            I am working on an Ricoh MPC4500 that will have a pinkish/gray background on color copies but internal print jobs look fine. I was told that an all clear was performed in SP mode and I do not have birth certificate for machine, is there any way to return it to normal functions. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
                            Techs that perform Memory Clear to resolve paper jams, print quality issues, service calls, etc. (and don't make a backup), don't understand sh*t about what they're doing and should be banned from this business forever!!

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                            • Polarbear
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1070

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eric1968
                              Techs that perform Memory Clear to resolve paper jams, print quality issues, service calls, etc. (and don't make a backup), don't understand sh*t about what they're doing and should be banned from this business forever!!
                              I so agree! There is one i.t. Tech with us who always jokes about memory all clear as if it is his secret weapon! Wish i knew who taught him the service mode access code! He should be shot!

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