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  • PA3040
    Trusted Tech
    • Jun 2014
    • 171

    #1

    MP2001L copies with background

    Dear All,

    I found MP2001L few machines that has a problem, copies get background ( like over toner )even copy counter not more than 20,000
    I replaced developer then problem is solved and after another 5000 copies the problem is papering again
    Does any one have similar issue and solution
    Last edited by PA3040; 06-14-2014, 01:00 PM.
  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2

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    • rsyarcia
      Hair Straightener Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 711

      #3
      Re: MP2001L copies with background

      use orig Ricoh Toner.
      Nobody is perfect..

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      • Polarbear
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2012
        • 1070

        #4
        Re: MP2001L copies with background

        Originally posted by rsyarcia
        use orig Ricoh Toner.
        Which dev are you installing on first startup? B1219645 (dev28) or B1589645?

        The latter is the correct one as it uses different toner to the previous models.
        Press the GREEN button!!

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        • PA3040
          Trusted Tech
          • Jun 2014
          • 171

          #5
          Re: MP2001L copies with background

          Originally posted by rsyarcia
          use orig Ricoh Toner.
          Yes, I used only OEM Toner and Developer

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          • slimslob
            Retired

            Site Contributor
            25,000+ Posts
            • May 2013
            • 36831

            #6
            Re: MP2001L copies with background

            Originally posted by PA3040
            Yes, I used only OEM Toner and Developer
            He asked which OEM developer, by part number, did you use! Type 28 part number B1219645 or the correct developer part number B1589645! Also just because an item may say OEM on it does not mean that it is OEM for the machine your are using. If you did not order it from Ricoh, it might not be Genuine Ricoh.

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            • PA3040
              Trusted Tech
              • Jun 2014
              • 171

              #7
              Re: MP2001L copies with background

              Originally posted by Polarbear
              Which dev are you installing on first startup? B1219645 (dev28) or B1589645?

              The latter is the correct one as it uses different toner to the previous models.

              I used D1589640

              What is the 9645 Number? We used always OEM 9640 Number
              Ex
              Product code Number
              D158 9640
              B121 9640

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              • PA3040
                Trusted Tech
                • Jun 2014
                • 171

                #8
                Re: MP2001L copies with background

                Originally posted by slimslob
                He asked which OEM developer, by part number, did you use! Type 28 part number B1219645 or the correct developer part number B1589645! Also just because an item may say OEM on it does not mean that it is OEM for the machine your are using. If you did not order it from Ricoh, it might not be Genuine Ricoh.

                Or..... Thanks for the advice

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                • Polarbear
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1070

                  #9
                  B1219640 is an older dev. It was replaced by the "45" dev = dev 28 around when the mp2000 was launched. It also, according to our price list, costs more for the older dev, even though the volume is the same.

                  Sent from my GT-P7500 using Tapatalk
                  Press the GREEN button!!

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                  • PA3040
                    Trusted Tech
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 171

                    #10
                    Re: MP2001L copies with background

                    Originally posted by Polarbear
                    B1219640 is an older dev. It was replaced by the "45" dev = dev 28 around when the mp2000 was launched. It also, according to our price list, costs more for the older dev, even though the volume is the same.

                    Sent from my GT-P7500 using Tapatalk
                    Highly doubtful

                    Are you sure?

                    As per Ricoh B1219640 for MP1600/MP1800...etc ( product name kir c3 / kir c3.5..... )

                    and

                    D1589640 for MP2001L / MP2501L .....etc ( product name kir c4 ....)


                    It is impossible OEM developer number digits ending with "9645"

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                    • slimslob
                      Retired

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                      • May 2013
                      • 36831

                      #11
                      Re: MP2001L copies with background

                      Originally posted by PA3040
                      Highly doubtful

                      Are you sure?
                      It is impossible OEM developer number digits ending with "9645"
                      Very possible and very common. When initially released, developer part number will in 9640. When a change is made in the formulation, the new part number will in 9645. The second change will end in 9646.

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                      • copier tech
                        Field Supervisor

                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 8101

                        #12
                        Re: MP2001L copies with background

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        Very possible and very common. When initially released, developer part number will in 9640. When a change is made in the formulation, the new part number will in 9645. The second change will end in 9646.
                        This makes sense as the latest fuser sleeves end in 46?
                        Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                        For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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                        • PA3040
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 171

                          #13
                          Re: MP2001L copies with background

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Very possible and very common. When initially released, developer part number will in 9640. When a change is made in the formulation, the new part number will in 9645. The second change will end in 9646.
                          Thanks for the reply

                          In your reply, you are assuming. so I would asking actual
                          Up to now Ricoh do not have this kind of part number "9645"

                          If yes, how would you prove it

                          Please advice
                          thanks in advance

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                          • copier tech
                            Field Supervisor

                            5,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 8101

                            #14
                            Re: MP2001L copies with background

                            Log in to your Ricoh support page & look for any parts manual updates, it will be there
                            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                            • slimslob
                              Retired

                              Site Contributor
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                              • May 2013
                              • 36831

                              #15
                              Re: MP2001L copies with background

                              According to Tech Service Bulletin 012 for the MP2000, B1219640 is for use in Asia only. B1219645 is for use in North America and Europe. As for the MP 2001L, it was not made available in the United States so I cannot get any manuals or bulletins to check.

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