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  • copier tech
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    • Jan 2014
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    #16
    Re: MP2001L copies with background

    Originally posted by slimslob
    According to Tech Service Bulletin 012 for the MP2000, B1219640 is for use in Asia only. B1219645 is for use in North America and Europe. As for the MP 2001L, it was not made available in the United States so I cannot get any manuals or bulletins to check.
    I just checked & D1589640 is the latest part number in the UK & is correct for the MP2001
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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    • PA3040
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      • Jun 2014
      • 171

      #17
      Re: MP2001L copies with background

      Originally posted by copier tech
      I just checked & D1589640 is the latest part number in the UK & is correct for the MP2001
      Now Developer Part number problem is solved but my original problem is pending
      Any solutions

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
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        #18
        Re: MP2001L copies with background

        Originally posted by PA3040
        Now Developer Part number problem is solved but my original problem is pending
        Any solutions
        First, get the proper developer. Before you put it in, check for toner filming on the development roller. Clean it while there is no developer in the unit. If you think you might have a toner density sensor problem, replace it while there is no developer in the unit. Clean all toner residue from the PCU.

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        • copier tech
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          #19
          Re: MP2001L copies with background

          If this was my call i'd order a new dev unit, bag of developer, update all the firmware then fit the parts & not forgetting to run the dev setup procdure (SP2-801-001) I think as only did one myself last week, if you didn't perform this then that might be your problem.
          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

          For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

          www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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          • PA3040
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            • Jun 2014
            • 171

            #20
            Re: MP2001L copies with background

            Originally posted by slimslob
            First, get the proper developer. Before you put it in, check for toner filming on the development roller. Clean it while there is no developer in the unit. If you think you might have a toner density sensor problem, replace it while there is no developer in the unit. Clean all toner residue from the PCU.
            Dear slimslob

            Thanks for the reply and advice

            In my case, some machines get effected withing two months after selling ( Brand new machine with original Developer and toner )

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            • PA3040
              Trusted Tech
              • Jun 2014
              • 171

              #21
              Re: MP2001L copies with background

              Originally posted by copier tech
              If this was my call i'd order a new dev unit, bag of developer, update all the firmware then fit the parts & not forgetting to run the dev setup procdure (SP2-801-001) I think as only did one myself last week, if you didn't perform this then that might be your problem.
              I did firmware update but what is the reason to replace the development unit the machine still new,

              After replacing the developer the copy quality is perfect

              Ricoh has released a new firmware to solved the problem which dirty background of the backside paper when making SMC print
              But my case normal printing and copying

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              • copier tech
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                #22
                Re: MP2001L copies with background

                Just to rule out the dev cylinder & TD sensor, if they're arn't to expensive worth it as a precaution.
                Have you looked into what the customer is printing? Long runs with very little print on the page or long runs with a lot of txt & photos etc can cause this kind of issue.
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • PA3040
                  Trusted Tech
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 171

                  #23
                  Re: MP2001L copies with background

                  [QUOTE=copier tech;423761]


                  Have you looked into what the customer is printing? Long runs with very little print on the page or long runs with a lot of txt & photos etc can cause this kind of issue.
                  Impossible because after replacing developer one customer make 6500 copies

                  Let say, you are correct, but we didn't notice this type of problems with MP2000 series machines since one of my customer is using both machine in the copy shop


                  Just to rule out the dev cylinder & TD sensor, if they're arn't to expensive worth it as a precaution.
                  I will try this

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                  • copier tech
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                    #24
                    Re: MP2001L copies with background

                    Yes but an MP2000 is not the same as an MP2001 hence the different Dev part numbers!
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                    • PA3040
                      Trusted Tech
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 171

                      #25
                      Re: MP2001L copies with background

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      Yes but an MP2000 is not the same as an MP2001 hence the different Dev part numbers!
                      You are telling problem with developer?

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                      • copier tech
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                        #26
                        Re: MP2001L copies with background

                        No! All i'm saying (as was said above) the 2000 & 2001 dev is not the same
                        Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                        For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                        www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                        • PA3040
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 171

                          #27
                          Re: MP2001L copies with background

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          No! All i'm saying (as was said above) the 2000 & 2001 dev is not the same
                          Yes, That is obvious

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                          • Waliul
                            Technician
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 20

                            #28
                            Re: MP2001L copies with background

                            Please try to use OEM Developer (D1589640) & OEM Toner (EDP CODE: 842009/Europe Version)
                            for the above machine. I hope problem will be solve.
                            Thanks.

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                            • PA3040
                              Trusted Tech
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 171

                              #29
                              Re: MP2001L copies with background

                              Originally posted by Waliul
                              Please try to use OEM Developer (D1589640) & OEM Toner (EDP CODE: 842009/Europe Version)
                              for the above machine. I hope problem will be solve.
                              Thanks.
                              Dear Waliul,\ Thanks for the reply

                              We ordered only Ricoh genuine ( OEM) toners and developers from ricoh. Toner EDB code is 842012

                              Our continuous observation found that customers are complained after replacing the new toner, some time first toner. Then we checked with the toner and there are no issues since the machine installation had been done by the same toner lot

                              In this situation what our tech's are doing is
                              1. make 10 black copies until toner mark is papered
                              2.then checked the vsg and vsp , Normally vsg 3.92 - 4.01 and vsp above the 1.5(in correct ) ( after black copies done)
                              3.Changed the SP2301 [Tr Current Adj] 004 Cleaning/Negative for background correction
                              4.Changed the SP2929[Vtref Limits] Upper Limit and Lower Limit
                              5.Re initialize the developer

                              in error case we observed that the vsp is not normal and it always above the 1.5
                              Can any one advice how to reduce vsp to correct valve ( vsp<0.5) for new drum
                              What is the meaning of PWM and vsdp

                              Thanks in advance

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                              • slimslob
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                                #30
                                Re: MP2001L copies with background

                                vsp and vsdp are readings taken by the p sensor (ID sensor) immediately following the ID patch. vsdp is used for design purposes only. PWM is calculated during developer initialization and process control. It has to do with the voltage/current applied to the emitter of the p sensor in order to get a valid reading for the surface of the drum prior to the ID patch.

                                That all said, clean the p sensor. It is located in the PTR unit directly below the transfer roller. The sensor gets dirty and process control raises PWM. When PWM is increased, the ID patch looks lighter and process control increases the toner density causing back ground.

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