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  • Serviser
    Technician
    • Jun 2007
    • 16

    #1

    Ricoh aficio 2105 duplex jam

    Hi people. Have problem with jam in duplex entrance. Mashine is general clean, but if you try to copy two sided every paper stay at duplex (jam code 21 and 73). I clean all complete, replace clucth, even put my duplex in another mashine, its works like new!!! so, somthing else is in problem, but I cannot find what. Any ideas???
  • joher
    Technician
    • Apr 2008
    • 43

    #2
    Originally posted by Serviser
    Hi people. Have problem with jam in duplex entrance. Mashine is general clean, but if you try to copy two sided every paper stay at duplex (jam code 21 and 73). I clean all complete, replace clucth, even put my duplex in another mashine, its works like new!!! so, somthing else is in problem, but I cannot find what. Any ideas???

    dear duplex do not drive,,,,,, check the duplex conector some spark here,

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    • Serviser
      Technician
      • Jun 2007
      • 16

      #3
      Check duplex conector on duplex, and on rear side of mashine. Duplex works on another mashine....

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      • Jimbo1
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Mar 2008
        • 845

        #4
        I have found that in those faster machines, you can actually get suplex jams because of slick rollers in the papaer tray that is being fed from. The timing difference soesn't show up till it hits the duplexer. Check your rollers and the torque limiter in the tray.
        "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

        Cdr. William Riker

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        • Serviser
          Technician
          • Jun 2007
          • 16

          #5
          Jimbo, thats exelent discover, but, try from 1,2,3 and 4th tray - all same.

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          • Polo-022
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Sep 2007
            • 486

            #6
            Fuser exit switch, probably! How many copies on meter?

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            • schooltech
              School District Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jun 2008
              • 504

              #7
              It doesn't sound as though the duplex is the problem. Check to see if the fuser exit sensor is working perfectly. I've had quite a few of those stick. It is a reed sensor of-sorts, and they can have problems.

              Feed sensor 21- duplex transport sensor 2
              S42 Duplex Transport Sensor 2 Detects the position of paper in the duplex
              unit.

              INPUT CHECK
              class3 no3 bit switch 3
              0 (LOW) 1 (HIGH)
              3 Duplex Transport 2 Sensor
              Paper detected No paper
              sensor #57 (middle sensor)



              Feed sensor 73- inverter tray paper sensor (stay on)
              Bachelor of Science in Information Technology, Comptia A+, Comptia Network+

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              • FRIDGEMAGNET
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Aug 2007
                • 377

                #8
                Try setting the machine in copy face down exit and copy single sided. That will tell you if the problem is in the duplex feed/inverter area or the duplex output/copy interleaving area.
                This is in user tools.

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                • iMind
                  Vacuum Cleaning Expert

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1116

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FRIDGEMAGNET
                  Try setting the machine in copy face down exit and copy single sided. That will tell you if the problem is in the duplex feed/inverter area or the duplex output/copy interleaving area.
                  This is in user tools.
                  I think Fridge meant face up, because face down goes to the inverter
                  sigpicWe can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound

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                  • FRIDGEMAGNET
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 377

                    #10
                    Originally posted by iMind
                    I think Fridge meant face up, because face down goes to the inverter
                    Nooo, I meant face down.
                    In this mode you only use the left side of the duplex.

                    If it works in this mode the problem will probably be in the duplex transport, or the interleaving of duplex sheets and sheets from the trays (relay clutches and feed clutches).

                    If it still jams the problem is in the inverter or the duplex feed/stack area - B,C,F
                    Attached Files

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                    • iMind
                      Vacuum Cleaning Expert

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1116

                      #11
                      OK sorry, but if he tries it with face up with no jams, that would eliminate feed stations, although I think theres no problem with them.
                      sigpicWe can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound

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                      • Voltage
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 282

                        #12
                        How many copies has the machine done?
                        Could be that the motor is under stress due to worn units.

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                        • Cipher
                          It's not easy being green

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • May 2006
                          • 1309

                          #13
                          I'm not sure if you have seen this from the troubleshooting RTB00 but it may go towards helping track the problem down.

                          Codes numbered 1 to 35
                          Indicate the paper did not get to a specific sensor within the allotted time.
                          Jam codes between 53 and 73
                          Indicate the paper got to the specific sensor on time but did not leave the sensor within the allotted time.

                          Jam code 21

                          Paper did not activate the Duplex Transport Sensor 2 in time.

                          • The page activated the first duplex transport sensor correctly but
                          did not activate the second transport sensor within the allotted
                          time.
                          • Verify correct operation of the second transport sensor using
                          SP5803-3, bit 3.
                          • If the sensor is working correctly, check the paper path for
                          obstructions.
                          • Turn on the fusing/duplex motor using SP5804-44 and then
                          check the operation of the duplex transport clutch using SP5804-
                          49.
                          • Check the drive belt and the associated rollers.
                          • Knowledge not shared, is eventually knowledge that becomes lost... like tears in the rain.

                          Fully qualified technician for Ricoh - Canon - Sharp - HP - Brother

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                          • Serviser
                            Technician
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Thanks all for help!
                            When masine works one-sided, no mater face up or down, evrything is ok, there is no jams.
                            When turn duplex on, every copy enter in duplex, then go outside and stop. Jam code 21 is because they dont reach duplex transport sensor 2
                            Jam code 73 is because they dont leave duplex invertor sensor.
                            I have this two codes mixed. I put complete duplex unit in another mashine, and I dont have this problem, so duplex is ok, right?

                            Here is picture where paper stay
                            Attached Files

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                            • FRIDGEMAGNET
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 377

                              #15
                              Now that sounds more like a connector problem.

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