Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

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  • Codex
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    • May 2008
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    #16
    Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

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    Here is a pic.... But at that time the machine was almost ok, and the problem was about to disappear... You can see only a small part of it... Normally it is much more than on the pic.
    Memento Audere Semper

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    • Codex
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      #17
      Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

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      Christian, this is the next what i'll do.. Change the drum.... Here is hot (and humid) too in summer....
      Memento Audere Semper

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      • KapeKopyTek
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        #18
        Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

        This looks exactly like our humidity issue, make sure the heaters are plugged in, turned on in SP mode, lower the humidity setting, and you'll probably have to give the drum unit a thorough cleaning. If that doesn't work, you'll have to replace the drum, blade, and brush as well. How close is the machine to a PM? Good luck!

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        • Codex
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          #19
          Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

          Kapekopytek: i set today the humidity setting on 30%...let's see what happens.... Thx!
          Memento Audere Semper

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          • vargue
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            #20
            Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

            this issue happens to me when yo take drum off for while without any cover then i set it on machine. it's make blurred image .like what yo posted.

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            • allan
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              #21
              Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

              Originally posted by vargue
              this issue happens to me when yo take drum off for while without any cover then i set it on machine. it's make blurred image .like what yo posted.
              How is that relevant?
              Whatever

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              • Iowatech
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                #22
                Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                Originally posted by allan
                How is that relevant?
                I suppose that's because it is something that causes a similar print defect that may not have been considered fully?
                Just my two cents.

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                • subaro
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                  #23
                  Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                  both told me that the machines make intermittent light copies ( blurred areas on the copy) , but only in the morning , for approxx 2 or 3 hours, and then everything turns ok again (perfect copies).......(!).

                  Hold on here. Is this happening only when copying from adf or scanner glass or is it happening when printing too ?. could this coming from the scanner ?
                  just my thought here.
                  THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                  • allan
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                    #24
                    Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                    Originally posted by subaro
                    both told me that the machines make intermittent light copies ( blurred areas on the copy) , but only in the morning , for approxx 2 or 3 hours, and then everything turns ok again (perfect copies).......(!).

                    Hold on here. Is this happening only when copying from adf or scanner glass or is it happening when printing too ?. could this coming from the scanner ?
                    just my thought here.

                    Good question it did look like an optical problem at first glance. but my mind is stuck on the engine. Do you thinks the paper would warp like that under the drum?
                    Whatever

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                    • allan
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                      #25
                      Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                      Originally posted by Iowatech
                      I suppose that's because it is something that causes a similar print defect that may not have been considered fully?
                      Just my two cents.
                      That did not look any thing like drum fatigue. I should have phrased that better.
                      Whatever

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                      • nmfaxman
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                        #26
                        Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                        Show up first thing in the AM with a fresh ream of recommended paper and see what happens.

                        I had a Toshipa Years ago with intermittant light copies. Turned out to be the Shredder affecting the main board.

                        Once again check the surroundings.
                        Part of our job is detective work.

                        I'm Batman when it comes to weird problems.
                        Why do they call it common sense?

                        If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                        • subaro
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                          #27
                          Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                          Part of our job is detective work.

                          Like your statement nmfaxman.

                          For describing a problem like the original post, the poster [codex] should have attached pictures so the detectives out there can analyze it and probably spot something he missed. Also he did not mention if both machines was in the same building or close proximity. I would want to know that as nmfaxman, rightly points out, that we have to be inquisitive about not only the mechanics of the machine, but also the surrondings and atmospheric conditions and others like proper ventilation. volatage fluctations on a falulty high voltage pwb can be a source of his problems as well as secondary transfer.
                          A stop check in the middle of the print and looking at the drum image should eliminate fuser, and transfer problems.

                          my apologies. pic were posted earlier on the thread.


                          Last edited by subaro; 04-04-2015, 04:22 AM.
                          THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                          • PA3040
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                            • Jun 2014
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                            #28
                            Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                            I faced the similar problem with MP5000 and what we did is, polished the drum then it worked for a week and it comes again ( only for morning )then I changed the Cleaning Blade then it worked for two three weeks finally we change drum unit then problem fixed.

                            Note: In our case the Drum wasted 70% of PM

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                            • Codex
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                              #29
                              Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                              Hello subaro... Thanks for your post.... I posted the pictures later.... The problems occurs in copy mode from glass and adf... And in prints from computers... The machines are in two different buildings... I write from Sicily.. The climatic conditions are normal and not like in Germany or Canada...... And mrfaxman is right.... We are detectives.. It happens to me on every customer that have a problem.. I have to investigate,again and again... Compliments to you all guys!
                              Memento Audere Semper

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                              • Codex
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                                #30
                                Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                                Nmfaxman: i tried already with new paper... Yesterday we changed the position of the machine from near Windows to inside the room.... A guess...... Customer called this morning.... Same problem....... I'm going mad..... The drum made 300.000 copies and have to do 1.200.000 copies..... Next what I do is to change the drum....... I forgot to say that they have two machines in that room.... This crazy Mp6001 and an Aficio 1075.....both with d58 drum changed the same week..... Problem is only on the Mp6001
                                Memento Audere Semper

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