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  • Codex
    Senior Tech
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    • May 2008
    • 661

    [Misc] Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

    Hello

    I have a very very strange problem, we have to customers , one with an MP 6001 and the other with an Aficio 2075, both told me that the machines make intermittent light copies ( blurred areas on the copy) , but only in the morning , for approxx 2 or 3 hours, and then everything turns ok again (perfect copies).......(!)
    Both machines have an ORIGINAL Ricoh D58 Drum........i changed in both machines Charge Grid and corona Wire, i cleaned every exhaust air filter, changed Developer, and cleaned everything .I believe in an humidity issue or some charge problems on the Drum, i write from Sicily, our weather is not like in GB or Germany......so guys...ANY IDEAS?????
    Memento Audere Semper
  • francisco
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    100+ Posts
    • Nov 2009
    • 168

    #2
    Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

    Originally posted by Codex
    Hello

    I have a very very strange problem, we have to customers , one with an MP 6001 and the other with an Aficio 2075, both told me that the machines make intermittent light copies ( blurred areas on the copy) , but only in the morning , for approxx 2 or 3 hours, and then everything turns ok again (perfect copies).......(!)
    Both machines have an ORIGINAL Ricoh D58 Drum........i changed in both machines Charge Grid and corona Wire, i cleaned every exhaust air filter, changed Developer, and cleaned everything .I believe in an humidity issue or some charge problems on the Drum, i write from Sicily, our weather is not like in GB or Germany......so guys...ANY IDEAS?????
    try to turn on the heaters

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    • slimslob
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      • May 2013
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      #3
      Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

      Check if there is toner residue build up on the thermistors.

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      • Codex
        Senior Tech
        500+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 661

        #4
        Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

        I turned on the heaters in both machines....
        Memento Audere Semper

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        • nmfaxman
          Service Manager
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          • Feb 2008
          • 1705

          #5
          Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

          I have seen sunlight on a copier cause weird problems.

          Check the environment.
          Why do they call it common sense?

          If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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          • Codex
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            • May 2008
            • 661

            #6
            Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

            One machine is near a Windows.. But no chance for sunlight to reach inside machine.... The other one is inside a copy-shop.... No window near the machine...... Nobody believes in a humidity issue?...... That causes bad drum charge or something??....or in a defect drum?.
            Memento Audere Semper

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            • Bantams
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              • Jun 2012
              • 603

              #7
              Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

              Sounds very much like humidity building up in the machines drum area over night are they switching them off or leaving them on in a un ventilated room over night?

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              • Codex
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                • May 2008
                • 661

                #8
                Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                They switch the machine of... But i activate the heaters that turns on when the machine is switched off...... Is it possible that these machines suffer humidity?.....i turned on the fans after the firmware update (there was a tech bulletin about light copies) but the problem starts AFTER the update... I don't think that this is the problem, but i have to find a solution...
                Memento Audere Semper

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                • allan
                  RTFM!!
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5429

                  #9
                  Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                  please post an image.

                  Get there in the morning when the machine is acting up and stop the image under the drum that would give you a chance to check if its charge, transfer or fusing in one step.

                  The you can strip the machine to check for moisture even before you switch it on.
                  Whatever

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                  • Polo-022
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 475

                    #10
                    Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                    Bantams absolutely hits the target!
                    Obviously it's a blurred not a light print and a known problem discussed at previous posts.

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                    • Iowatech
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                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3933

                      #11
                      Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                      Originally posted by Codex
                      Nobody believes in a humidity issue?...... That causes bad drum charge or something??....or in a defect drum?.
                      Not so much that. The humidity causes a film of moisture on the drum similar to what you would see on the mirror when you get out of a pleasantly warm shower. If the fuser is the only source of heat in the machine, it takes a while for the film on the drum to evaporate. If this is the case, that's why it takes a while to correct itself.

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                      • anothertech
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                        • Nov 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                        Are you sure the heaters are working? Did you touch the heaters(or near them) to confirm they are getting warm? Did you plug them in at the power supply? It does sound like moisture on the drum.

                        If not working check fuse FU1

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                        • Codex
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                          Im sure the heaters are working and i checked FU1 at my last visit, i'll be there today and try to see if i can see the moisture. I will post a picture of the blurred copy.
                          Memento Audere Semper

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                          • CRISTIAN MULLER
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                            • Feb 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                            Nobody said but, if don't change the drum, this problem won't go away, I live in Brazil and humidity is a known issue here, after I turn on heaters, change filters and make some adjusts on service manual, I always have to change drum, if you have moisture on it for a long period this can damage the drum.upgrade firmware and you will see new options to control fans time to stay on, try to increase that time also.hope this help

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                            • KapeKopyTek
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                              • Nov 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: Light copies only in the morning MP6001 and Aficio 2075

                              Gets very humid here in the summer, we plug the heaters in, turn them on in SP, and turn the humidity setting down to 50%. This has helped. You can tell the heaters are on when you open the paper trays......

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