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  • sharptech1
    Trusted Tech

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    • Oct 2011
    • 163

    #1

    Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

    And YES I know they patrol this site
  • ZOOTECH
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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

    Originally posted by sharptech1
    And YES I know they patrol this site
    If you worked there trying to help the techs that don't research the manuals, tech bulletins, do a "Google" search, etc, I have a feeling you (no offense) might be a bit grumpy yourself.
    "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      • Jul 2007
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      #3
      Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

      It's got to be a tough job. You're on the other end of a telephone so you can't really see what's happening. You get incomplete information, stupidity, and sometimes lies. And you don't know if the person on the other end did or understood what you suggested. Not that different from taking customer calls.

      I'm sure we've got some tech support guys here. Comments? =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • mbcruzin
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        100+ Posts
        • Aug 2013
        • 142

        #4
        Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

        Not enough coffee..... Well that always makes me grumpy.

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        • qbert69
          Service Manager

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          • Mar 2013
          • 1152

          #5
          Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

          To expound on the "RTFM" issue, here is a quote from "Rummy" that "clarifies" the issue at hand!:

          "Now what is the message there? The message is that there are no "knowns." There are thing we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns."

          Quoted from here:

          The page cannot be found

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            #6
            Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

            I don't call tech support very often, but when I do, if it takes 35 minutes to get to a live person, I've already thought of three more things to check. Plus that hold music must be specifically designed to make technicians want to slit their wrists. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • NeoMatrix
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              2,500+ Posts
              • Nov 2010
              • 3514

              #7
              Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

              Originally posted by qbert69
              To expound on the "RTFM" issue, here is a quote from "Rummy" that "clarifies" the issue at hand!:

              "Now what is the message there? The message is that there are no "knowns." There are thing we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns."

              Quoted from here:

              The page cannot be found

              Haha ... there no such thing as an "unknown, unknown,( not even in a empirical sense), because the two negations make it therefore a "known".... It's a bit like saying have a not unnice day.

              I didn't read the "Rummy" post but I found the above funny...

              It reminds me of Rummy's associate in higher office around the same time, who made the now world famous quote "Is our children learning."


              May all those in Tech support have a not un-nice day....
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              • sharptech1
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Oct 2011
                • 163

                #8
                Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                I retract my statement. Had a lovely conversation today. Maybe they read this. Would like to go into detail but not gonna get anyone in trouble. But thanks for the tip today. You know who you are.

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                • ZOOTECH
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                  #9
                  Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                  Originally posted by sharptech1
                  I retract my statement. Had a lovely conversation today. Maybe they read this. Would like to go into detail but not gonna get anyone in trouble. But thanks for the tip today. You know who you are.
                  Well, I guess it wasn't my tip which was not today.
                  "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                  • serviceman678
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 19

                    #10
                    Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                    Originally posted by sharptech1
                    And YES I know they patrol this site
                    maybe because they are about to loose their jobs sharp is in big time financial distress and they are in negotiations for selling out

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                    • JLSam
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 603

                      #11
                      Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                      Originally posted by serviceman678
                      maybe because they are about to loose their jobs sharp is in big time financial distress and they are in negotiations for selling out
                      Didn't Foxxcon purchase Sharp already?

                      In either case. I feel bad for tech support, sometimes I call them for the stupidest reasons, but hey, they are my support. If I'm stumped, I call.

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                      • allan
                        RTFM!!

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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 5460

                        #12
                        Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                        Remember the Panasonic support. These guys were really good.
                        Also from Kyocera, they where really helpful.

                        Now you have to report your problem via email and submit all kinds of information like management lists...
                        Not allowed to phone them any more
                        Whatever

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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

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                          #13
                          Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                          Originally posted by allan
                          Remember the Panasonic support. These guys were really good...
                          I do remember Panasonic support. I would set up 6 hours worth of in-shop work, near a phone with speaker functions. Every two minutes you had to press 1 to remain on hold, otherwise you were dropped. It never took less than 3 hours to reach a live human, and often more.

                          I had to make up a script of questions to ask, because by the time I got somebody I was nearly too angry to speak. Definitely too angry to think coherently. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • qbert69
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1152

                            #14
                            Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                            Haha ... there no such thing as an "unknown, unknown,( not even in a empirical sense), because the two negations make it therefore a "known".... It's a bit like saying have a not unnice day.

                            I didn't read the "Rummy" post but I found the above funny...

                            It reminds me of Rummy's associate in higher office around the same time, who made the now world famous quote "Is our children learning."


                            May all those in Tech support have a not un-nice day....
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                            • subaro
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                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1272

                              #15
                              Re: Why is sharp tech support so grumpy?

                              Originally posted by allan
                              Remember the Panasonic support. These guys were really good.
                              Also from Kyocera, they where really helpful.

                              Now you have to report your problem via email and submit all kinds of information like management lists...
                              Not allowed to phone them any more

                              I only call tech support once in a blue moon. If my boss suggest i call tech support, i reply that i am tech support, as the other side is usually on a different Mhz. Of all the support i have used, Kyocera are the best, they are prompt, knows their stuff and also have a Q&A site that you can log calls if you don't have the time with the phone. log the call when you get a chance and check back later for the reply.
                              Also i may add, kyocera service website are instant access, and downloads are super fast. i can open manuals right on their site and browse easily. Make the switch guys, it's worth it from a service point of view.

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