chip toner in ar-m450

[DINGO]

Hi
first a good day for everyone
I leave here relevant question, that which is if somebody nows as eliminate the chip toner in the ar-m450/350.

I am investigate abaout this, is because i think if i can do it, i just whith the F2 erros, that crash the copier and must be turn on/of again and lost the works, what is very incovenient in the copy centers.

regards

[blackcat4866]

[DINGO]

Hi
Thanks for your coment blackcat, but i am investigate, because i beleave that is possible
the ar-m450 work whithout toner cheap, thats mean, work whithout toner cartdrige.

[jpcopy]

a guy on ebay has these chip for sale

[DINGO]

re

thanks jpcopy
My problem i'snt the chips.
I want try eliminate the chip, because i have some of this copiers (ar-m450/350) that get easily F2-02.

any way thanks.

[jpcopy]

we have several of them and the imagistics clone out. most of the time when we get that code is toner not shaken befor installing. had one place standing toner on end-not good. some schools would let machine add and add toner till chip blew. so I'll take the code.

[DINGO]

jpcopy, ihave someones in sagem clone out, i try flash it whith the sharp firmware, but when i flash a PCU flash the copier give me E7-50??
but the main and but accepts good, do you now somthing asbout??

regards

[repn1999]

I have several Imagistics out there in the field like jcopy. We sent all the PCU boards off to hytec and had em reworked to accept SharpARM450 toner instead of the more expensive Imagistics toner. I know for a fact you can have the PCU boards chipped to accept a different CRUM chip but I agree with blackcat on his statement that they cannot be run without a CRUM chip at all. We did not have to reflash the boards with Sharp firmware or anything just had em modified and they work like a champ. cost was about 80 dollars a board but on a high volume machine you will make that up in no time off of the price difference between sharp toner and the other more expensive modified carts from Imagstics and Savin.

To DINGO....I have seen that code once before, but it was when we tried to swap a ARM350N board into an ARM450N+ machine because the 450N+ board got fried by a surge during a heavy storm. I know that there was a couple changes in the laser units and their control boards. Could be related to the version mix of hardware you have vs the version of rom you are trying to flash with. But like I said, the only time we've ever seen this was when we tried to do that board swap for a temporary fix.

[jpcopy]

Dingo
I don't think you can flash a clone (imagistics) with sharp solfware. I know the main board won't swap. the print board,Lsu,power board, and whole scanner unit will interchange and of course all hardware parts will interchange.

repn1999
what is a good price for sharp 450 toner? I pay around 50 bucks for imagistics toner and 48 for sharp. I have heard of a chip reprogramer that you can buy that will let you reprogram imagistics to a sharp. cost is around 300 bucks. and also I have talked with hytec about reworkong them. unless i can save more than 2.00 I can't see that it's worth it. and we have less problems with imagistics toner than sharp

[repn1999]

We use strictly oem toner for our sharps and get it for about 43 per. An oce/iMagistics oem toner runs us about 85. Don't know if you use oem or not. I've had maybe a couple bad toners for sharp mono copiers in the last few years. Usually it's not the toner. And i've actually got a reprogrammrt but it didn't work so well. So the fix through hytec worked best for us.

[jpcopy]

we use only oem toners also. have tried several aftermarkets and all caused backgrounding. oem sharp toner has not caused problem but we have to instruct user to be sure to shake real well before opening box and some times the sharp toner come in with leaks (small amounts) but enought to make a little mess and customers complain. imagistics no leaks and very little shaking

[repn1999]

Yea I know all about the shaking part. Would u mind sharing where u get the imagistics toner for 50 at? It would be a good thing to know

[DINGO]

re

Thanks very much for all replys.

I use toner katun in this copiers, n and no problem, a as a several of this models.

for repn1999- yet about interchargeable 350/450., i have three that i became 350 in 450, i take a old 450 whith many copies and one 350 whith little use and copies and swap:

-main board
-lsu unit
-main motor.
and i have a new 450, and work well no problems.

another matter.
-i knwo one clone of 450 that work whitout chip toner, work without the toner unit, and is because this that i think if is possible in sharp ??

thanks, stay weel everybodi

..............

[jpcopy]

Dingo
have to admit I have not used katun as I had problems with them on toshibas. you don't get any backgrounding or CQ problems. does katun get full life out of toner, do your copiers run dirty? what is the name of the clone sharp that does not have a chip?

[DINGO]

i'm glad whith the toner katun.
the clone sharp that works whith chip toner was original sagem, but already have the main and boot sharp fimware, the only thing that is sagem was the pcu board, and this flash do not acept firmware sharp.
of corse the copier now, when switch on the logo is sharp, and works without toner unit.