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  • vincent64
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 382
    #1

    [Misc] Swapping developers

    Any one out there ever try subistuting developers, ie... AR 400 ND for AR 336 ND, this will work.
    How about AR 450 ND for AR 455 ND, the amount of DV in the bag is different, by 50 Grams.
    Any ideads if this will work ????
    Tags: 336, 400, 450, 455, amou, bag, developer, developers, forgot, one, swapping, toner chips, work
    • tmaged
      Owner/Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2008
      • 1865
      #2
      yep we tried it, and it didn't work. It's been a while so I can't remember exactly. I believe they use different charge voltages between the two series.
      Hope that helps !
      -Tony
      www.dtios.com
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        • OMD-227
          #3
          Seriously Vincent..... dont do it.

          Complete waste of time & dev. Same applies for MX color dev as well. Have tried those too with major overtoning being the result after the first 1000 or so pages.

          Many components can be interchanged between series, but dev is one thing that must remain the same.

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22989
              #4
              It's hardly worth the trouble. Between Cougars it can be interchanged as long as its weighed up per the amount on the package.

              I did an extended experiment once when I believed I had a developer issue on the Dragon I's. I weighed up the proper amount of Cougar developer and it set properly in simulation. Then I filled 1/2 dozen toner cartridges with Cougar toner. Copy quality was good (other than the toner chips problem from the fuser). When the 6 cartridges were done, our office staff had completely forgotten that I had filled special cartridges, and continues with Dragon toner. That also continued to work fine (other that the ongoing toner chips problem from the fuser).

              I have to agree with wazza on this. The chances of success are low, and you won't save a significant amount of cash to make it worthwhile. The odds are that you'll create a problem where there is none. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • OMD-227
                  #5
                  What toner chips from the fuser????

                  Are you mad man????

                  88.jpg

                  I never saw any problems with the Dragon fuser......................... I even put on extra strong prescription glasses..... nope... no problem here........


                  Well done by the way on the cougar vs dragon test. Thats brilliant dude!

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22989
                      #6
                      In a sense it was a partial success. I could rule out developing for sure. But what a mess filling those cartridges! =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • lky1978
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 482
                          #7
                          i tried ar-m451n using ar-m450n developer, waste time and money><

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                            • vincent64
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 382
                              #8
                              First let me thank all my fellow techs that replied to this posting.
                              Second, was not my idea, was told to try it, made one mell of a hess, let me tell you.
                              There is a difference between them.

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