Saddle Stitch from Publisher

[tmaged]

I installed a MX-4100N yesterday. It's in a church & they'd like to be able to saddle stitch legal (which it can do) as a print job. Does anyone have any documentation ? Why is this SO FREAKING HARD !!! I know the pages need set up as single pages to let the driver do the booklet making portion.
I tried to get it to work at another customers with it pulling cover stock. That wouldn't work either. Thanks in advance.

[blackcat4866]

I've had Tiger & Jupiter users try to do this with the AR-FN7. At least in this situation it just doesn't do it. Sharp finishers traditionally will only do booklets on ledger, never legal.

Maybe wazza has some magic for you, but I would not expect it to do that. Good luck. =^..^=

[tmaged]

Oh I can get it to work. The older machines wouldn't saddle legal because it didn't make a standard size when folded. Most other manufacturers would though, so sharp must have followed. I can't get the layout to work.

[OMD-227]

Tony, you are right about the page layout. The whole document MUST be in the correct order as viewed on the computer, then select booklet through the driver, and the driver does all the ripping into the correct order.

The FN10 service manual states that only these paper sizes can be saddle stitched: A3, B4, A4R, 8K, 16K, 11x17, 8.5x14, 8.5x11R.
We dont use Legal paper here in Australia, so I dont know what size that even is. We use A3 & A4, so things are easy. If Legal size does not match those listed above, the finisher will not saddle stitch the job.

In publisher, you need to have the paper setup correctly. This is not a finisher issue, you are more than aware of that I think.

[tmaged]

Sorry, I forget about you "upside down" guys 8.5 x 14 is Legal here. It seems that so many people want to use it & it's such a pain in the arse.

[OMD-227]

Upside down??? Hey, at least we drive on the correct side of the road!!! You guys are the backwards ones!!

[KenB]

Saddle stitching on legal size paper is actually quite a common request here is the good ol' US of A, unfortunately. Almost exclusively at churches, and in Publisher (or worse, Word).

Also unfortunately, is that this is typically a firmware update for the finisher.

There was a Ricoh model a few years back (the Aficio 1060), that actually required the firmware to be downgraded, if that makes any sense.

[KenB]

Sorry, I forget about you "upside down" guys 8.5 x 14 is Legal here. It seems that so many people want to use it & it's such a pain in the arse.

Even their toilets flush backwards. How weird is that?

[OMD-227]

Thats not weird Ken...... Thats how we roll down under baby!!!!

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Saddle stiching on finishers has always been a nightmare for me. Sometimes I could get them to work and I swear and try it a second time and it would be all messed up. Pure nightmares.

[sacoward]

Did you ever get this figured out? We just had the exact same copier installed today, but are having issues getting it to print properly. When printing from publisher the output is inside out.
thanks!

[bdcrandall13]

Let the print driver do all the work. All the customer needs to do is lay out the pages in order. When you do that, all you have to do is click print and set the print driver settings to pamphlet style and to staple. What I do for my customers who use saddle stitch often is create another "printer" that is only used for saddle stitching. I just add another printer for the machine, select all the options for saddle stitching and change the name to "MX4100N Saddle Stitch" or something similar. It saves a lot of headache later on.
Good luck.

[sacoward]

Let the print driver do all the work. All the customer needs to do is lay out the pages in order. When you do that, all you have to do is click print and set the print driver settings to pamphlet style and to staple. What I do for my customers who use saddle stitch often is create another "printer" that is only used for saddle stitching. I just add another printer for the machine, select all the options for saddle stitching and change the name to "MX4100N Saddle Stitch" or something similar. It saves a lot of headache later on.
Good luck.

Unfortunately that dies not seem to play well with publisher when printing to legal size paper. The printer drivers don't know how to resize so thing look professional. I'd much prefer to use Publisher booklet function.

[sacoward]

Let the print driver do all the work. All the customer needs to do is lay out the pages in order. When you do that, all you have to do is click print and set the print driver settings to pamphlet style and to staple. What I do for my customers who use saddle stitch often is create another "printer" that is only used for saddle stitching. I just add another printer for the machine, select all the options for saddle stitching and change the name to "MX4100N Saddle Stitch" or something similar. It saves a lot of headache later on.
Good luck.

The problem with this is that the print drivers don't do a great job when creating a legal sized pamphlet . . . it shrinks it down funny. I would much prefer have publisher manage this so we can get a more professional look. It seems to me what is missing is an option on the Sharp to print in reverse order. Our Panasonic had this option, but our new sharp does not. If I export to pdf and select reverse print order in acrobat, it prints fine . . . I would just prefer to skip this step. Thanks!

[KenB]

The problem with this is that the print drivers don't do a great job when creating a legal sized pamphlet . . . it shrinks it down funny. I would much prefer have publisher manage this so we can get a more professional look. It seems to me what is missing is an option on the Sharp to print in reverse order. Our Panasonic had this option, but our new sharp does not. If I export to pdf and select reverse print order in acrobat, it prints fine . . . I would just prefer to skip this step. Thanks!

Keep in mind that letter sized pages will not lay out nicely on legal sized paper;the reduction ratios aren't the same for the horizontal and vertical directions.11" down to 8.5" is 78%, while 8.5" down to 7" is 82%.

That's why the document needs to be created within the application on the right page size to begin with.

Not to mention the glaring fact that Publisher ain't all that smart to begin with.