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  • Buddy
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    AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

    Allright, I give up. I have a 455 (Imagistics version) that is making copies with faded areas along the back side (single-sided). It's an image that looks like a weak mag roller, or the mag roller is missing dv on it. When I run the internal test pattern of gray bars I get it and I also get it copying from the glass.


    Parts I've changed: Drum, charge unit, developer unit (a new one with fresh dv), transfer roller. I have taken the laser out and cleaned it inside and out. I have not touched the fuser because its fusing OK and the rollers are clean.

    HELP (I've got a very P.O.ed customer.)

    Thanks in advance.
  • Silvertoast
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    Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

    have u tried holding preasure against the side door while it is making a copy? have seen alot of these were the door is warped or not closing tightly causing poor copy quality. usualy lite grey banding, but could cause other problems worth a look if it is the problem u will need a new side door

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    • Buddy
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      Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

      I did trying holding the door, but it didn't make any difference.

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      • tmaged
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        Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

        What about the gear on the transfer roller. They'll do that. I've started replacing them whenever I do a PM.
        Hope that helps !
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        • blazebusiness
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          Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

          Originally posted by Buddy
          Allright, I give up. I have a 455 (Imagistics version) that is making copies with faded areas along the back side (single-sided). It's an image that looks like a weak mag roller, or the mag roller is missing dv on it. When I run the internal test pattern of gray bars I get it and I also get it copying from the glass.


          Parts I've changed: Drum, charge unit, developer unit (a new one with fresh dv), transfer roller. I have taken the laser out and cleaned it inside and out. I have not touched the fuser because its fusing OK and the rollers are clean.

          HELP (I've got a very P.O.ed customer.)

          Thanks in advance.
          Please post an example. Sounds like you've checked all the right stuff. I would have suspected dv unit or laser also.
          sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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          • Buddy
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            Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

            Originally posted by tmaged
            What about the gear on the transfer roller. They'll do that. I've started replacing them whenever I do a PM.
            Yup, I checked the gear when I replaced the transfer roller.

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            • Buddy
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              Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

              Sorry Blaze. I didn't bring an example home, but just picture cloud shaped, light areas on the back edge about an inch by two inches and sometimes smaller. And there's no pattern.

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              • blackcat4866
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                Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                If you're not sure about the transfer gear, the machine will run normal 20# paper stock without the gear. That's the test. Heavy paper requires the gear.

                Also check to see if the machine is level front to back. If the machine is high at the back, the mag roller will run bare after only a few revolutions.

                I've seen a scratched drum cause that.

                On one occasion I reseated the connectors to the laser, and to my astonishment the copy cleaned up.

                That's all I've got. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • divad2k1
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                  #9
                  Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                  Had this problem a few times and replacing the LSU always fixed this.

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                  • lky1978
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                    Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                    possible lsu....
                    or better upload an example to us

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                    • TennWalker
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                      Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                      I agree with the others based on what you have replaced. The LSU has resolved issues like this in the past for me.

                      Let us know how things work out.
                      I thought I was getting wiser as time went on... I now realize I am just getting older.

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                      • Buddy
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                        Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                        Turns out I did bring a sample home. (Occasionally I'm not as dumb as I think I am.)

                        Please see attached.
                        Attached Files

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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                          Good sample. In my interpretation, you definitely have a laser problem (based on the geometric light areas in the main-scan direction, but not all the way across the page), and possibly secondary developing or dirty laser optics problem (based on the graduated lighter area toward the back edge of the page). =^..^=
                          Last edited by blackcat4866; 01-16-2012, 03:48 AM.
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • Buddy
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                            Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                            Thanks Blackcat. I'll be ordering one.

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                            • lky1978
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                              Re: AR-M455 CQ Stumper of The Year

                              Originally posted by Buddy
                              Thanks Blackcat. I'll be ordering one.
                              viewed your attachment, is LSU problem.For me, i ll open up the LASER unit and look at the polygon motor surface got"cloudy" or not.If got just clean it before change the new LSU.

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