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  • bluenite
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    • Jan 2021
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    Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

    I am considering buying a new printer for home use, with a small amount of printing. Major manufacturers (Canon/Epson/HP/Brother) are constantly improving their systems, but I'm mainly interested in drying nozzles. Among other things, the cartridges price, original or compatible. Will anyone share the experience? Or look at a color laser, no photo quality printing?
    Does anyone know a good sites/blogs with verified opinions on printers?
    Thanks for answers
    Peter
  • Phil B.
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    • Jul 2016
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    #2
    Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

    Originally posted by bluenite
    I am considering buying a new printer for home use, with a small amount of printing. Major manufacturers (Canon/Epson/HP/Brother) are constantly improving their systems, but I'm mainly interested in drying nozzles. Among other things, the cartridges price, original or compatible. Will anyone share the experience? Or look at a color laser, no photo quality printing?
    Does anyone know a good sites/blogs with verified opinions on printers?
    Thanks for answers
    Peter
    brothers dry out the least

    epson next

    how long between print jobs?

    DO NOT USE COMPATIBLE INK.

    you'd have to give more info:

    how many prints per week.

    how long between jobs.

    what are you printing.

    what size of paper.

    print quality expected.

    printer budget.

    Phil B. ' The Dentist '

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      • Jul 2007
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      #3
      Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

      Look for an inkjet that has separate ink tanks for each color. So when you run out of one color, you're not throwing away the rest of the other three colors. I have had 3 or 4 Canons and have been overall happy with then. They are very flexible with media. The straight through path allows a wide variety of media to be used.

      Do not plan to have them fixed if you have a problem. They are disposable. The cost of the service call exceeds the replacement cost. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • Phil B.
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        • Jul 2016
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        #4
        Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Look for an inkjet that has separate ink tanks for each color. So when you run out of one color, you're not throwing away the rest of the other three colors. I have had 3 or 4 Canons and have been overall happy with then. They are very flexible with media. The straight through path allows a wide variety of media to be used.

        Do not plan to have them fixed if you have a problem. They are disposable. The cost of the service call exceeds the replacement cost. =^..^=
        hey BC how do the Canons handle airflow on top of them?

        Had Epson surecolor that would dry out and it was from ceiling air vents blowing directly down on it. moved it a few feet and all was good even if they only did one plot a week.

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

          I've never had that particular issue. Interesting.

          I used to print manila envelopes, cardstock, non-standard sizes ... just about anything. And though I usually discourage refilling ink tanks, this was just a clear plastic box that held the ink ... no printhead. It was a simple matter of prying out the nylon ball, squirting in 0.25oz of ink and popping the nylon ball back in. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • Phil B.
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            • Jul 2016
            • 22808

            #6
            Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            I've never had that particular issue. Interesting.

            I used to print manila envelopes, cardstock, non-standard sizes ... just about anything. And though I usually discourage refilling ink tanks, this was just a clear plastic box that held the ink ... no printhead. It was a simple matter of prying out the nylon ball, squirting in 0.25oz of ink and popping the nylon ball back in. =^..^=
            yeah I did on old hp's

            but on the newer carts w/ chips that isn't as easy.

            the surecolor has large tanks.. larger print heads a larger field of ink being put down, even the desktop 12x18 had great quality and some even have large tanks of ink.

            the ones that use smaller carts are POS's IMHO

            yes brother does use the multi color and separate black on most models

            one trick I learned for most inkjet's

            'clogged heads'

            fold paper towel so it fits in head path.

            wet w/ Simple Green...

            park the print head over that towel for 30-45 mins

            clean parking/wiper station down while head is parked.

            move head back to parking area

            remove paper towel

            test print

            works on epson-hp-brother& canon(these are the most stubborn)

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            • slimslob
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              • May 2013
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              #7
              Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

              You might want to keep a full set of cartridges on hand. That could however get expensive. If all you are going to do is printing a couple of pages every now and then compare the cost of a full set of cartridges against a low priced printer such as a Canon TS202 $78.00 from Amazon. Keep a new one in the box for when the current one quits.

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              • copier tech
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                • Jan 2014
                • 7931

                #8
                Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                Originally posted by bluenite
                I am considering buying a new printer for home use, with a small amount of printing. Major manufacturers (Canon/Epson/HP/Brother) are constantly improving their systems, but I'm mainly interested in drying nozzles. Among other things, the cartridges price, original or compatible. Will anyone share the experience? Or look at a color laser, no photo quality printing?
                Does anyone know a good sites/blogs with verified opinions on printers?
                Thanks for answers
                Peter

                If you have the space go for a colour laserjet many advantages over ink.


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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #9
                  Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                  I think inkjet printers (most of 'em) are the biggest ripoff known to man. The price per copy is ridiculous. Laserjet is much less expensive. There are some inkjets that are less expensive than others. You better do your homework. Stay away from HP...unless you like spending money. And like blackcat said, when something goes wrong, just throw it in the trash and buy another one. HP and most brands sell the printer at cost and get you on the cartridges.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • copiertec
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                    • Jan 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    I think inkjet printers (most of 'em) are the biggest ripoff known to man. The price per copy is ridiculous. Laserjet is much less expensive. There are some inkjets that are less expensive than others. You better do your homework. Stay away from HP...unless you like spending money. And like blackcat said, when something goes wrong, just throw it in the trash and buy another one. HP and most brands sell the printer at cost and get you on the cartridges.
                    HP has always been short for, "High Priced", in my book.
                    Last edited by copiertec; 01-24-2021, 08:05 PM.

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                    • Tricky
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                      • Apr 2009
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                      #11
                      Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                      I have been using compatibles in my epson 2630 for a few years and it produces very good results. The nozzles have dried out once but Phil's trick fixed that. I can get 40 for what epson want for one set.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                        The 10 most expensive liquids on earth per gallon:


                        1. SCORPION VENOM $39,000,000 PER GALLON

                        2. KING COBRA VENOM $153,000 PER GALLON

                        3. LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE (LSD) $123,000 PER GALLON



                        4. HORSESHOE CRAB BLOOD $60,000 PER GALLON


                        5. CHANEL NO. 5 $26,000 PER GALLON

                        6. INSULIN $9,400* PER GALLON

                        7. MERCURY $3,400 PER GALLON




                        8. BLACK PRINTER INK $2,700 PER GALLON


                        9. GAMMA HYDROXYBUTYRIC ACID (GHB): $2,500 PER GALLON



                        10. HUMAN BLOOD: $1,500 PER GALLON
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • copier tech
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                          • Jan 2014
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                          #13
                          Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          The 10 most expensive liquids on earth per gallon:


                          1. SCORPION VENOM $39,000,000 PER GALLON

                          2. KING COBRA VENOM $153,000 PER GALLON

                          3. LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE (LSD) $123,000 PER GALLON



                          4. HORSESHOE CRAB BLOOD $60,000 PER GALLON


                          5. CHANEL NO. 5 $26,000 PER GALLON

                          6. INSULIN $9,400* PER GALLON

                          7. MERCURY $3,400 PER GALLON




                          8. BLACK PRINTER INK $2,700 PER GALLON


                          9. GAMMA HYDROXYBUTYRIC ACID (GHB): $2,500 PER GALLON



                          10. HUMAN BLOOD: $1,500 PER GALLON
                          Interesting list. I’m surprised wine or champagne is not on that there, some of the rare bottles sells for thousands.
                          Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                          • bluenite
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2021
                            • 6

                            #14
                            Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            brothers dry out the least

                            epson next

                            how long between print jobs?

                            DO NOT USE COMPATIBLE INK.

                            you'd have to give more info:

                            how many prints per week.

                            how long between jobs.

                            what are you printing.

                            what size of paper.

                            print quality expected.

                            printer budget.

                            Phil B. ' The Dentist '
                            wow what a nice discussion here arises.
                            You can see where it goes ;-)

                            I don't know the printer Brother at all, same as OKI with LED technology.
                            Don't print often, but rather suddenly,
                            as a freelance architect with home office with a need accurate vectors +presentations from photoshop,
                            I am discouraged by the low photo quality from the laser.
                            Formats are A4-A3+.
                            Printer budget is relative - today's prices are still similar to what used to be in this category, but today quality is an essential parameter.

                            I don't want a "cheap" printer. Only since I bought the last one has technology advanced. The good old HPlj1300 cost 800usd 20 years ago, I didn't even think about a color laser that time.
                            I also had Epsons of a slightly higher category, Stylus Photo 1270, then nice design piece SP2200, from HP DesignJet 30.
                            I tried alternative refills, returned to the original due to the results.
                            Now I am looking for the current experience of other demanding users with regard to the price/performance parameter.
                            I am considering the options, I do not have much space for more hw for different uses (documents-color laser/photo+presentation-inkjet).
                            Furthermore, the original consumables - such a Canon has color prices slowly the same as the printer itself (6-color).

                            Thanks for every feedback.
                            Peter

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                            • copiertec
                              Service Manager

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                              • Jan 2016
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                              #15
                              Re: Inkjet printing - drying of nozzles issue

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              The 10 most expensive liquids on earth per gallon:


                              1. SCORPION VENOM $39,000,000 PER GALLON

                              2. KING COBRA VENOM $153,000 PER GALLON

                              3. LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE (LSD) $123,000 PER GALLON



                              4. HORSESHOE CRAB BLOOD $60,000 PER GALLON


                              5. CHANEL NO. 5 $26,000 PER GALLON

                              6. INSULIN $9,400* PER GALLON

                              7. MERCURY $3,400 PER GALLON




                              8. BLACK PRINTER INK $2,700 PER GALLON


                              9. GAMMA HYDROXYBUTYRIC ACID (GHB): $2,500 PER GALLON



                              10. HUMAN BLOOD: $1,500 PER GALLON
                              I find it interesting that black printer ink is more expensive than human blood.

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