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  • kukisek

    #31
    Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

    Hello. I have the same error.
    I recorded the printer during the ITB Contact / Alienation test.
    Is the fuser drive working properly?



    The wheel just turns to the left and the right beats the strange sounds
    Last edited by Guest; 10-26-2017, 02:56 PM.

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    • Phil B.
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      • Jul 2016
      • 22808

      #32
      Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

      Originally posted by komarville237
      I didn't add another sponge or tape, or bent it and the magnet comes in contact with the metal now, so maybe i corrected the problem by removing the sticky foam but i created another one by not adding something else in its' place. Thanks a lot for your input, i'll give another go and see what happens
      yes you have to put something on the plate... use electrical tape.

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      • JR2ALTA
        Service Manager

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        • Feb 2010
        • 2017

        #33
        Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

        I had a 59.f0 that wouldn't clear after fuser drive, sensor and t-belt. Turned out to be DC Controller

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        • theengel
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Nov 2011
          • 1784

          #34
          Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

          Look at the pic in this page:

          HP CP3525 - 59.F0

          Be sure your gears are assembled correctly.

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          • Kami

            #35
            Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

            I also had 59.F0 error due to sticking solenoid. Many thanks to this forum and this video helped to fix it:

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            • theengel
              Service Manager

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              • Nov 2011
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              #36
              Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

              Just a word on this problem:

              Last week I replaced a fuser drive assembly on a CP3525. I had ordered it as a 'refurb' part. Don't do that. You end up getting a part that was just taken out of an old machine, and half the time, the solenoid sticks already. I haven't seen a case where a refurbed part has a NEW solenoid.

              The job took 5 hours because of a plug that I had missed.

              But during this time, I realized that you DON'T have to replace the whole assembly. You can get at the solenoid by removing the upper HVPS, saving you from having to remove the main drive assembly. I blogged about it here:

              HP CP3525 - 59.F0 Part 2

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              • JLSam
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jun 2015
                • 602

                #37
                Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                Originally posted by theengel
                Just a word on this problem:

                Last week I replaced a fuser drive assembly on a CP3525. I had ordered it as a 'refurb' part. Don't do that. You end up getting a part that was just taken out of an old machine, and half the time, the solenoid sticks already. I haven't seen a case where a refurbed part has a NEW solenoid.

                The job took 5 hours because of a plug that I had missed.

                But during this time, I realized that you DON'T have to replace the whole assembly. You can get at the solenoid by removing the upper HVPS, saving you from having to remove the main drive assembly. I blogged about it here:

                HP CP3525 - 59.F0 Part 2

                I've had to clean so many f****** solenoids from HP. Really hard for my company to justify a $1.00 new velvet Material then $300 worth of labor for a sponge. I hate HP's solenoids with such a passion. And Canon too for that matter for putting those same sponges on every single actuator, guide and gates.

                You know what this is called? This is called terrible engineering.

                It takes 30 minutes to remove the boards and top parts of the HVPS, 2 minutes to clean, and another 30 to put back together. This is WAY Too long for a simple sponge.

                AT LEAST the Laserjet 4***'s family have the solenoids accessible with ONE cover removed. That's called Good Engineering.



                Sorry to rant. I had a CP3525 ITB solenoid problem with morning... and when I saw this post I just got burst nerve.

                Dear HP. Just Stop. It's time to stop with those sponges. Just stop. (I'm looking at you too Canon.)

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                • Phil B.
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                  • Jul 2016
                  • 22808

                  #38
                  Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                  Originally posted by JLSam
                  I've had to clean so many f****** solenoids from HP. Really hard for my company to justify a $1.00 new velvet Material then $300 worth of labor for a sponge. I hate HP's solenoids with such a passion. And Canon too for that matter for putting those same sponges on every single actuator, guide and gates.

                  You know what this is called? This is called terrible engineering.

                  It takes 30 minutes to remove the boards and top parts of the HVPS, 2 minutes to clean, and another 30 to put back together. This is WAY Too long for a simple sponge.

                  AT LEAST the Laserjet 4***'s family have the solenoids accessible with ONE cover removed. That's called Good Engineering.



                  Sorry to rant. I had a CP3525 ITB solenoid problem with morning... and when I saw this post I just got burst nerve.

                  Dear HP. Just Stop. It's time to stop with those sponges. Just stop. (I'm looking at you too Canon.)

                  HP engines were made by Canon for the longest time.

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                  • theengel
                    Service Manager

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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #39
                    Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                    Same solenoids are in Dells, Brothers, and quite a few others.

                    The reason they are relevant in HPs, is because HP machines actually last long enough for the solenoids to go bad.

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                    • Lance15
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                      • Jun 2015
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                      #40
                      Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                      The last 4525 I had to do this on, I took the solenoid out of the bad drive just to have a look. The solenoid pad didn't show any signs of degradation. No residue on the metal flap. The pad LOOKED okay. The only thing I can think is the pad had become to thin and the metal flap would stick just a millisecond or so to long and throw things off? Once the job was done, the printer worked fine, so, there was SOMEthing wrong with the drive.

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                      • theengel
                        Service Manager

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                        • Nov 2011
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                        #41
                        Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                        That is true--you really have no way of knowing whether it's the solenoid or the motor or a gear or something else... not unless you fix the solenoid, put it back together, and then still get the error. And as someone pointed out, it could still be the DC controller. These machines are nightmares. But you have to admit, as I had said earlier, you don't have these kinds of problems with the other brands because those low volume machines don't last long enough to see such problems.

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                        • Tina2040
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 7

                          #42
                          Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                          Kudos and thanks to everyone who has contributed to this post, without these detailed instructions I probably would not have been able to fix the 59.00.F0 error, thought I'd share my two cents.

                          I had this 59.00.F0 on a HP LaserJet M4540 MFP & also on a HP LaserJet CP3525 printer. I was pulling my hair out, the CP3525 printer ended up getting replaced (supposedly, but if I had one more shot at that printer, I could fix it too)

                          On the HP LaserJet M4540 however, I was able to fix it (after 3 hours). And like previous few posts had already mentioned, refurbished fuser drive assembly often comes with a solenoid that already has foam pad worn or sticky. I had to clean the deteriorated foam pad with fingernails and rubbing alcohol, then tape it with electrical tape, and cut off the excess electrical tape, then after that it's just reassembled the printer back.

                          I too, would just love to have five minutes with the HP engineers...

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                          • POPCADU

                            #43
                            Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                            WOW... i have the same issue here.
                            Almost every Laserjet printer need this solenoid repair!
                            4 hours here too

                            Originally posted by DaIceMan
                            Hi all, just wanted to add my experience with this issue.
                            In my case the ITB was moving (the black was window rotating properly) and the gear was rotating upon visual inspection and the optical sensor was working fine. However shortly after powering on the printer a "whirring" sound would be heard and the 59.F0 error would popup and the printer would be offline. Also when running the ITB diagnostic a this whirring noise would also be heard sometimes which was never heard before.
                            Following Bernielhat's suggestions, I resolved the problem removing and cleaning the degraded foam "click silencer" from the solenoid actuator lever. In our case the gear was not misaligned and nothing was broken and the solenoid was working fine, it was just sticking so that the gear did not stop when it should have as the actuator would not "drop" in time and a "whirring" o fast clicking noise (like slipping gears) was heard from the side. This is because the large "double gear" has a small dent/camme where the solenoid actuator should lock on to stop it from rotating but being held back by the sticky foam it would drop after half a second missing the stop point. The gear would then rotate too far as it is spring loaded and hit the relevent primary gear. When the primary gear rotated it's gears would "slip" on the spring loaded gear and create the whirring or clicking noise which I heard as out of alignment. This subsequently misaligned the ITB black "window" which rotates on the ITB and the relevant sensor would not detect the correct position resulting in the 59.F0 error. For additional reference I will attach some photos of the solenoid and gear assembly.
                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]31364[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31365[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31366[/ATTACH]

                            The solenoid can be dismantled easily (the photos show the solenoid without the actuator which I already removed): after unscrewing the 2 screws from the solenoid assembly, remove the solenoid from the gear assembly lifting and rotating it out. Then carefully remove the actuator spring and lift off the metal actuator by slightly tilting it to one side and lifting it off, it's easier said than done. Clean off the black adhesive pad using some alcohol or solvent. I used first my finger then some alcohol and my nails to remove the remaining adhesive. Remount it the opposite way, first the actuator then the spring and place it back in the gear subassembly taking care of lifting the metal actuator with a small screwdriver while inserting it back into position as it will get in contact with the gear if not pressed back. Hold it there and put the 2 screws back into place.

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]31367[/ATTACH]

                            The "clicking" is barely noticeable once the printer is closed up and running so I don't really know why hp decided to place that pad there. It took me 4 hours to get the thing apart and back together as there is no other way to access the solenoid. The contact surface is large so it won't consume or dent the actuator in any way.

                            Kudos for the sticky/foamy pad on the actuator which saved me debug time and money!

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                            • theengel
                              Service Manager

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                              #44
                              Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                              Originally posted by POPCADU
                              WOW... i have the same issue here.
                              Almost every Laserjet printer need this solenoid repair!
                              4 hours here too
                              I never saw the post you quoted there... or maybe I saw how long it was and decided not to read it. For any one seeing it, DON'T DO THAT.

                              You can't put it back without either re-padding it or bending the metal to keep the plate from coming so close to the magnet. The plate magnetizes and sticks. It doesn't happen as consistently as it did with the sticky stuff, but eventually it will happen.

                              Most of the guys re-pad them with something. I bend the plate, as shown here:

                              solenoid2.jpg
                              solenoid3.jpg
                              solenoid4.jpg

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                              • POPCADU

                                #45
                                Re: cp3525 with 59.f0 error

                                Originally posted by POPCADU
                                WOW... i have the same issue here.
                                Almost every Laserjet printer need this solenoid repair!
                                4 hours here too
                                and yes, made repair in the right way and replace the pad with another material...
                                doing maintenance here for 16 years friend.

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