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  • allan
    RTFM!!

    5,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 5459

    #1

    Toner shortages

    Anyone still experiencing toner shortages on the KM machines?
    Katun make a killing since last year November.
    So the Katun stuff must be of some ok quality if Japan bought out most of there KM toner to use....
    Whatever
  • positiveg
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jun 2018
    • 299

    #2
    Re: Toner shortages

    Hey there Allan and all.
    Yeah man I've been searching for toner very hard to get even a full set. I'm looking for yellow for my 454, contacted a supplier who usually buy developer from last night andnge told me he has. If you want me to assist message me would send you his info.

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    • kingarthur
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 1304

      #3
      Re: Toner shortages

      It seems to be easing, having difficulty getting TN227 full bottles, but getting half bottles fine, Katun are out of stock for TN324/TN512C toner...not expected until end of March/beginning of April, I've been getting empty bottles back from my customers, and splitting a full bottle between, creating my own half bottles.
      Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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      • positiveg
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Jun 2018
        • 299

        #4
        Re: Toner shortages

        Originally posted by kingarthur
        It seems to be easing, having difficulty getting TN227 full bottles, but getting half bottles fine, Katun are out of stock for TN324/TN512C toner...not expected until end of March/beginning of April, I've been getting empty bottles back from my customers, and splitting a full bottle between, creating my own half bottles.
        Wow. Imagine having to do that. Goes to show that ita really a crunch and got to be mindful of what's happening out there.
        I've got two tn512K and 1 C but nothing else. Think I'll try get a set ans hope that as you say by March end everything sorted. Hope it's before then.
        And I have paper shortages too. Can't get 11x17

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

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          • Apr 2010
          • 5459

          #5
          Re: Toner shortages

          The biggest problem here seems to be production toner. The guys have been decanting all over the place. Been using Tn414...

          How does a factory burn down twice in a row?
          Whatever

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          • Shadow
            PHD in Sh!t Disturbing

            250+ Posts
            • Sep 2011
            • 455

            #6
            Re: Toner shortages

            The word that we got here was due to Chip Shortages.
            KM doesn't have enough chips to process the toner.
            How about Drum Shortages??
            We have DR313 Colour Drums on order since last October.
            $hit Happens - Deal with it and move on.....................................sigpic....................................Lock & Load

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            • allan
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              • Apr 2010
              • 5459

              #7
              Re: Toner shortages

              Yea there is a shortage of microprocessor chips, that affects all electronics manufactures. Demands up supply is down.
              Cause by the 5G roll out??

              No silicone chips used on a KM toner chips these days.
              Toner factory burned down.
              Whatever

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              • Woxner
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jul 2011
                • 829

                #8
                Re: Toner shortages

                Km built a new plant in new york. Orders are catching up. You can use most toner from 4 series and up in any machine. Its all the same stuff. Even production. It all comes from the same hopper.

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                • allan
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5459

                  #9
                  Re: Toner shortages

                  Originally posted by Woxner
                  Km built a new plant in new york. Orders are catching up. You can use most toner from 4 series and up in any machine. Its all the same stuff. Even production. It all comes from the same hopper.
                  MSDS(material safety data sheets) will prove just that. Only difference is if its got same % WAX-2 and developer or not. Older toners can cause trouble due to higher melt point.
                  But yes TN414 is the same as TN016!

                  Amazingly enough bizhub and xerox toners work on each other.
                  Whatever

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                  • emujo2
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1580

                    #10
                    Re: Toner shortages

                    It's like gas and oil..It all comes from one big tank, just different labels and pricing..

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                    • wjurls
                      Trusted Tech

                      Site Contributor
                      250+ Posts
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 492

                      #11
                      Re: Toner shortages

                      Originally posted by Shadow
                      The word that we got here was due to Chip Shortages.
                      KM doesn't have enough chips to process the toner.
                      How about Drum Shortages??
                      We have DR313 Colour Drums on order since last October.
                      Discount Copier Center shows DR-313's in stock.

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                      • SAR
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 199

                        #12
                        Re: Toner shortages

                        Desperate for some TN-513 toner here. Is there another black OEM toner to use in it's place?
                        Also hurting on TN-626 toner and the DR-313CMY drums.

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                        • allan
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Toner shortages

                          Originally posted by sar
                          desperate for some tn-513 toner here. Is there another black oem toner to use in it's place?
                          Also hurting on tn-626 toner and the dr-313cmy drums.
                          tn321
                          tn512
                          tn413
                          tn613
                          tn711
                          tn712
                          tn313
                          Whatever

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                          • Chris Barton
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Re: Toner shortages

                            Originally posted by allan
                            How does a factory burn down twice in a row?
                            What happened is that there are two main factories in Japan that manufacture toner for Ricoh, Cannon, Xerox and KM. One had a fire. That shut it down for several months. Then a week after they went back online, there was an explosion. After that they shut down both factories as they were worried the same thing could happen in the second factory. Both (to my knowledge) were back online shortly after Thanksgiving but by that point there was a world wide shortage and they've been trying to catch up ever since.

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                            • Drivee
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2020
                              • 322

                              #15
                              Re: Toner shortages

                              Hi

                              I am baying:
                              TN324
                              TN514
                              TN321
                              TN221
                              TN-216 and TN319

                              Aftermarket toners. I using them last 7-8 months and they are great! Even if I find OEM I will not bay them anymore. Toner shortage from KM has big impact on my job and I am not happy. I also save some money here.. It is all about baying good brand. I did try some toners from Katun and China, they was bad. Mixing with OEM toenr was not great so I was change some DEV's. With this one I am fine.

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