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  • irokkas
    Technician
    • Oct 2012
    • 18

    #1

    [Misc] Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

    Hello to everyone,

    As you can see at the bottom of the printed image there is a difference on the color.All the pcu's are relatively new (15k).I think the problem is when the printer is mixing colours, so my mind is on laser unit.I would appreciate your thoughts
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  • allan
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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

    Originally posted by irokkas
    Hello to everyone,

    As you can see at the bottom of the printed image there is a difference on the color.All the pcu's are relatively new (15k).I think the problem is when the printer is mixing colours, so my mind is on laser unit.I would appreciate your thoughts
    Also post half tones at value 125.
    The age of the rest of the consumable parts?

    Is that on the leading or trailing edge? Looks like the trailing edge. Could be secondary transfer. Retraction timing, roller and belt condition or even fusing speed.
    Whatever

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    • copyman
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      • Sep 2005
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      #3
      Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

      I would try removing and cleaning the laser PH. Could also be a drum problem even with 15K, especially if the drums are old.

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      • techsxge
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        • Jan 2022
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        Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

        Originally posted by allan
        Also post half tones at value 125.
        Could be secondary transfer. Retraction timing, roller and belt condition or even fusing speed.
        Can you explain how you got to this? I cant explain this to myself.
        This looks more like drum unit or mb Developer

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        • irokkas
          Technician
          • Oct 2012
          • 18

          #5
          Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

          Tried another laser unit + transfer belt unit and nothing changed.After that the machine gave me another hint!There is magenta toner at the bottom.Also the client now told me that a few weeks back a document printed with full magenta background ( from edge to edge) and after he powered of the copier started to printing ok. So the problem probably is the magenta IU
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          • Gift
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            • Mar 2011
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            #6
            Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

            Hard to judge these low quality samples since they are looking quite okay-ish to me (for a machine this old and - probably - wasted and or over-aged consumables^^).

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            • techsxge
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              #7
              Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

              Check Magenta and Blue drum + Developer.

              Or is this aftermarket Toner?

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              • irokkas
                Technician
                • Oct 2012
                • 18

                #8
                Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                original toner20220906183034493_0002.jpg20220906183034493_0001.jpg
                the first one is with only magenta and the second is only cyan
                Last edited by irokkas; 09-06-2022, 04:10 PM.

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                • blackcat4866
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                  Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                  There is still confusion about which direction these pages fed. I've attached A3 sized images. I think that we could tell more if you printed these A3 sized images, then attached photos or scans of the results: =^..^=
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                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • allan
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                    Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                    Originally posted by techsxge
                    Can you explain how you got to this? I cant explain this to myself.
                    This looks more like drum unit or mb Developer
                    Not enough initial info so I assumed to feed direction...
                    I got the feed direction wrong and everything else followed.
                    Whatever

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                    • tsbservice
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                      • May 2007
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                      Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                      Originally posted by allan
                      Not enough initial info so I assumed to feed direction...
                      I got the feed direction wrong and everything else followed.
                      It costs a fraction of the second to draw an arrow pointing towards paper feeding direction but who am I to assume 😅
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                      • irokkas
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 18

                        #12
                        Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                        Ι m sorry for the confusion.Most of them have a red background.Thank you all for the help.
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                        • techsxge
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                          Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                          I am still vouching for the Magenta and Cyan Drum/Developer Unit. Can you send Photos of it?

                          I have seen this problem a bunch of times and in 60% of the cases its the cleaning blade (Is that the correct name?) of the Drum Units, 30% of the time its low developer and the last 10% are other parts like fusing unit or transfer unit

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                          • copyman
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                            I would start with at least the Magenta Image unit. Or split the IU open and clean corona, etc. Maybe add a little aftermarket developer.

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                            • blackcat4866
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                              Re: Konica minolta c452 light print at bottom

                              Originally posted by techsxge
                              I am still vouching for the Magenta and Cyan Drum/Developer Unit. Can you send Photos of it?

                              I have seen this problem a bunch of times and in 60% of the cases its the cleaning blade (Is that the correct name?) of the Drum Units, 30% of the time its low developer and the last 10% are other parts like fusing unit or transfer unit
                              I agree. Magenta IU for sure. Cyan IU to a less extent. Actual image count becomes inconsequential after a year or two has passed.

                              Having those images definitely helps. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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