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  • kingarthur
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 1320
    #1

    wtf

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    Was working on a copier recently, spent ages stripping the fuser down, put new rollers & thermistors, put it all back together, got about 50 prints out.....then suddenly the whole machine lit up with a bright white light inside all of it...then there was a puff of smoke....was absolutely certain it was nothing I had done....then I noticed the customers all looking under their desks as there was a "burning smell"...thought I'd got away with it..luckily the workshop isn't far..so in goes a loan and theirs comes back to the workshop..I'd already seen the lead and thought surely not...removed all covers for any sign of damage..can't see or smell anything...only a scorch mark on the covers where the lead plugs in...plug in the copier...it worked perfectly..however..the customer decided to replace this copier with a new one. I've never in 30+ years seen a mains lead do this, I must admit though sometimes it has been easier to use the old lead as it wasn't easy to unplug it...not anymore..all new machines get a new lead....just in case
    Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...
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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22997
      #2
      Re: wtf

      Like this? This was a Alabama series Toshiba that consumed a few hard drives, and would run and run and run. I smelled it before I saw it. My nose lead me to it.

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      =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • ZOOTECH
          Senior member of CRS

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 3375
          #3
          Re: wtf

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          Like this? This was a Alabama series Toshiba that consumed a few hard drives, and would run and run and run. I smelled it before I saw it. My nose lead me to it.

          [ATTACH=CONFIG]31181[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]31182[/ATTACH]

          =^..^=
          How did the surge protector turn out?
          "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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            • Tonerbomb
              AutoMajical Resolutionist

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Feb 2005
              • 2589
              #4
              Re: wtf

              Had an install start badly last year. Put in a brand new Baron series Ricoh 8110, plugged the 220 vac cord into a 220vac surge and then plugged the surge into the newly installed 220 outlet............. snap crackle Bang machine was dead. the customer called Sparky back, turned out when he put the cover plate on the new outlet the screws were too long and shorted the outlet.. Sparky thought it was no big deal, till he found out I do know a bit about electricity and the machine was over his pay grade.................................
              Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22997
                  #5
                  Re: wtf

                  Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                  How did the surge protector turn out?
                  The replacement cord came from the boneyard, I just nipped the female connector off of the surge suppressor and installed a new 20A female. Other than the smell, and a few sacrificial HDD's, not much damage. The part that I don't understand, is when the previous tech identified the same fried connection, could not get it disassembled ... and closed the call complete. Test OK. =P
                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • subaro
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1274
                      #6
                      Re: wtf

                      Tip of the day. something i really have not thought about, but really so simple. maybe many know this and i may have done this in diffrent ways. so have to remember this.
                      THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                        • ZOOTECH
                          Senior member of CRS

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                          • Jul 2007
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                          #7
                          Re: wtf

                          Originally posted by subaro
                          Tip of the day. something i really have not thought about, but really so simple. maybe many know this and i may have done this in diffrent ways. so have to remember this.
                          Been doing this for quite awhile when using corded tools outside the house.
                          "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                            • slimslob
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                              • May 2013
                              • 37248
                              #8
                              Re: wtf

                              Originally posted by subaro
                              Tip of the day. something i really have not thought about, but really so simple. maybe many know this and i may have done this in diffrent ways. so have to remember this.
                              Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                              Been doing this for quite awhile when using corded tools outside the house.
                              I also have been doing this most of my life. My father showed it to me for when you had to use an extension cord with a power tool. Use it now with my ekecric lawn equipment.

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                                • subaro
                                  Service Manager

                                  1,000+ Posts
                                  • Oct 2010
                                  • 1274
                                  #9
                                  Re: wtf

                                  Originally posted by slimslob
                                  I also have been doing this most of my life. My father showed it to me for when you had to use an extension cord with a power tool. Use it now with my ekecric lawn equipment.
                                  Today i just tried this and though it is workable, i can see possible damage with the cord if pulled and thus some malfunction maybe. In an industrial workplace this would be forbbiden. But as for the use around the house, it could be usefull as the demonstrator explained

                                  I think i can come up with something more feasible, so as not to stress the cords. problem, don't have a workshop at home, everything is done in my small apartment.
                                  THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                                    • slimslob
                                      Retired

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                                      25,000+ Posts
                                      • May 2013
                                      • 37248
                                      #10
                                      Re: wtf

                                      Originally posted by subaro
                                      Today i just tried this and though it is workable, i can see possible damage with the cord if pulled and thus some malfunction maybe. In an industrial workplace this would be forbbiden. But as for the use around the house, it could be usefull as the demonstrator explained

                                      I think i can come up with something more feasible, so as not to stress the cords. problem, don't have a workshop at home, everything is done in my small apartment.
                                      There are commercially available device that you loop the cords through to provide strain relief. When I do them, I don't pull the knot tight like the demonstrator did.

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                                        • blackcat4866
                                          Master Of The Obvious

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                                          • Jul 2007
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                                          #11
                                          Re: wtf

                                          Originally posted by subaro
                                          Tip of the day. something i really have not thought about, but really so simple. maybe many know this and i may have done this in diffrent ways. so have to remember this.
                                          For better strain relief, lay the two cords side-by-side and tie a square knot, then connect the ends. You can pull all you want, and it won't damage the cords, or pull them apart. Just a little more difficult to disassemble when the time comes. And yes, thanks Dad. =^..^=

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                                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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