Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

[Santander]

Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

LOL!!! I can pick specific lines out any speech and make it say what I want it to say. Find the full quote and read it.
She also said

• Chapter 29, "While the Doctors Consult", p. 366.

Look at who is picking Lines!!! Do you know anything about Sanger's manifesto for the organization that is now called Planned Parenthood? Apparently not, as she was for ridding the US population of what she considered sub-human and degrading additions to the US population! Why do you commies always want to parse out an individual's original statements when it does not fit your agenda, Read her original writings not some PC correct lies about it. She was like Hitler wanting to rid Jews in Europe only earlier, she wanted to rid the United States of Blacks and other infants that did not meet her mold of what she thought was good for America. You are just another dupe traveling the path of other fellow travelers. So sad!

[theengel]

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Margaret Sanger is a racist. She absolutely wanted to limit the births of minorities. In fact, she went to third world countries where she helped facilitate forced sterilization.

GROSSU: Margaret Sanger, racist eugenicist extraordinaire - Washington Times

BlackGenocide.org | The Truth About Margaret Sanger - Page Five

http://www.ewtn.com/library/prolife/ppracism.txt

Pastors Accuse Planned Parenthood for 'Genocide' on Blacks | Fox News

The only argument you can make against this is quoting a few protective news sources, who do little more that take everything she says out of context, and then spend page after page trying to reassign her passion for elimination of inferior races. Take everything she says, in context, and you will see that she very much wanted to keep the poor, the ignorant, the unhealthy, and the minorities from reproducing. She was in no way the champion for women. The women's health she was for, was the elimination of women who weren't healthy.

[Copier Addict]

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Look at who is picking Lines!!! Do you know anything about Sanger's manifesto for the organization that is now called Planned Parenthood? Apparently not, as she was for ridding the US population of what she considered sub-human and degrading additions to the US population! Why do you commies always want to parse out an individual's original statements when it does not fit your agenda, Read her original writings not some PC correct lies about it. She was like Hitler wanting to rid Jews in Europe only earlier, she wanted to rid the United States of Blacks and other infants that did not meet her mold of what she thought was good for America. You are just another dupe traveling the path of other fellow travelers. So sad!

Oh boy, first I was a fascist and now I'm a commie. Haha!! You right wingers are quick to anger and resort to name calling.
I haven't found any unbiased information that shows her to be racially motivated. Yes, she promoted birth control. She believed people who couldn't afford a large family shouldn't have a large family. From what I have read, even Dr Martin Luther King agreed with her message.
I have never understood how right wing men think they should have control over women's reproductive choices.

[theengel]

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I have never understood how right wing men think they should have control over women's reproductive choices.

Again, I refer back to my original idea. I honestly believe it's murder. It has nothing to do with women's rights. It has nothing to do with women at all. I believe it is wrong to murder innocent defenseless people. That's the entire issue. All the other arguments are inconsequential.

For example, the one about Margaret Sanger. It doesn't matter if she was a good woman or an evil one. If she was every bit as upstanding as Mother Theresa, it still wouldn't change the one, central argument: it's wrong to kill innocent people. Societal laws and social pressure should forbid it. Anyone with half a conscience should do what they can to put a stop to it.

But it's sometimes helpful to point these things out, because it very much supports the argument. Not so much in proving or disproving the biological facts (all of this has already been done, and anyone who denies it might find a grade school biology book helpful) but in showing the general nature of something so abhorrent. Bad things tend to breed bad things. Abortion is bad... and other bad things tend to revolve around it. Racism. Pornography and prostitution (and other forms of the objectification of women). Sex trafficking. Tyranny (let's not forget the forced abortions in China). The sale of human body parts. Pedophilia and incest.

Whether we look at the big picture (including people like Margaret Sanger and companies like Planned Parenthood) or we focus in on the small picture (the fact that taking an innocent human life is wrong) we still get the same picture. Abortion is wrong, and shouldn't be legal.

By the way, concerning "choice" and women's rights, studies show that around 65% of women who have abortions felt pressured to do so by others.

[Iowatech]

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Again, I refer back to my original idea. I honestly believe it's murder. It has nothing to do with women's rights. It has nothing to do with women at all. I believe it is wrong to murder innocent defenseless people. That's the entire issue. All the other arguments are inconsequential.

For example, the one about Margaret Sanger. It doesn't matter if she was a good woman or an evil one. If she was every bit as upstanding as Mother Theresa, it still wouldn't change the one, central argument: it's wrong to kill innocent people. Societal laws and social pressure should forbid it. Anyone with half a conscience should do what they can to put a stop to it.

But it's sometimes helpful to point these things out, because it very much supports the argument. Not so much in proving or disproving the biological facts (all of this has already been done, and anyone who denies it might find a grade school biology book helpful) but in showing the general nature of something so abhorrent. Bad things tend to breed bad things. Abortion is bad... and other bad things tend to revolve around it. Racism. Pornography and prostitution (and other forms of the objectification of women). Sex trafficking. Tyranny (let's not forget the forced abortions in China). The sale of human body parts. Pedophilia and incest.

Whether we look at the big picture (including people like Margaret Sanger and companies like Planned Parenthood) or we focus in on the small picture (the fact that taking an innocent human life is wrong) we still get the same picture. Abortion is wrong, and shouldn't be legal.

By the way, concerning "choice" and women's rights, studies show that around 65% of women who have abortions felt pressured to do so by others.

Good call, but also if men weren't involved, women wouldn't have a reason to worry about reproductive rights if you think about it. Actually kind of makes the whole reproductive rights argument kind of silly.
Funny how the people who argue for reproductive rights don't understand biology even a little bit.
Sorry for being a jerk.

[Copier Addict]

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Again, I refer back to my original idea. I honestly believe it's murder. It has nothing to do with women's rights. It has nothing to do with women at all. I believe it is wrong to murder innocent defenseless people. That's the entire issue. All the other arguments are inconsequential.

For example, the one about Margaret Sanger. It doesn't matter if she was a good woman or an evil one. If she was every bit as upstanding as Mother Theresa, it still wouldn't change the one, central argument: it's wrong to kill innocent people. Societal laws and social pressure should forbid it. Anyone with half a conscience should do what they can to put a stop to it.

But it's sometimes helpful to point these things out, because it very much supports the argument. Not so much in proving or disproving the biological facts (all of this has already been done, and anyone who denies it might find a grade school biology book helpful) but in showing the general nature of something so abhorrent. Bad things tend to breed bad things. Abortion is bad... and other bad things tend to revolve around it. Racism. Pornography and prostitution (and other forms of the objectification of women). Sex trafficking. Tyranny (let's not forget the forced abortions in China). The sale of human body parts. Pedophilia and incest.

Whether we look at the big picture (including people like Margaret Sanger and companies like Planned Parenthood) or we focus in on the small picture (the fact that taking an innocent human life is wrong) we still get the same picture. Abortion is wrong, and shouldn't be legal.

By the way, concerning "choice" and women's rights, studies show that around 65% of women who have abortions felt pressured to do so by others.

What you say may or may not be true, however, the choice should not be yours. The choice should be the woman's.

[theengel]

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Women can kill people but men can't?

[Copier Addict]

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Women can kill people but men can't?

Obviously that isn't true, the military kills innocent people all the time. And there are both men and women in the military.

[slimslob]

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What you say may or may not be true, however, the choice should not be yours. The choice should be the woman's.

How many choices does the woman get to use. She chose not to have a tubal ligation, the one service other than abortion that Planned Parenthood actually does provide. She chose not to use birth control, they are free through most county health departments. Except in the case of rape, she chose to have sex. She chose to not use any barrier device or have the man use a condom. As for rape, it should have been reported when it had occurred, not when she discovered she was pregnant.

[Geo]

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How many choices does the woman get to use. She chose not to have a tubal ligation, the one service other than abortion that Planned Parenthood actually does provide. She chose not to use birth control, they are free through most county health departments. Except in the case of rape, she chose to have sex. She chose to not use any barrier device or have the man use a condom. As for rape, it should have been reported when it had occurred, not when she discovered she was pregnant.

You will get pushback because facts and personal responsibility bother and confuse people..

[Copier Addict]

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How many choices does the woman get to use. She chose not to have a tubal ligation, the one service other than abortion that Planned Parenthood actually does provide. She chose not to use birth control, they are free through most county health departments. Except in the case of rape, she chose to have sex. She chose to not use any barrier device or have the man use a condom. As for rape, it should have been reported when it had occurred, not when she discovered she was pregnant.

You make it sound like women are using abortion as birth control, and maybe it does happen, but not many people take abortion lightly. It isn't as if someone wakes up one morning and suddenly decides to have an abortion. Not giving someone the choice is only driving them underground where there is way more risk.

[Santander]

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Oh boy, first I was a fascist and now I'm a commie. Haha!! You right wingers are quick to anger and resort to name calling.
I haven't found any unbiased information that shows her to be racially motivated. Yes, she promoted birth control. She believed people who couldn't afford a large family shouldn't have a large family. From what I have read, even Dr Martin Luther King agreed with her message.
I have never understood how right wing men think they should have control over women's reproductive choices.

How about her own writings!!! As I said in my previous post, if you read her original writings Sanger specially states she wants to rid America of inferior blacks! Apparently you do none of your own research, her original writings are widely available on the internet and clearly show her to be racially and ethnically motivated. As to your assertion that MLK agreed with her you could not be further from the truth! If saving a human life makes me a "right winger" then count me in! This has nothing to do with right or left, it has everything to do with what is right or wrong. Reproductive choices start with, she does not spread her legs, she uses a contraceptive, her partner uses a condom, not killing a conceived child. What other species on this plant kills their young??

[Copier Addict]

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How about her own writings!!! As I said in my previous post, if you read her original writings Sanger specially states she wants to rid America of inferior blacks! Apparently you do none of your own research, her original writings are widely available on the internet and clearly show her to be racially and ethnically motivated. As to your assertion that MLK agreed with her you could not be further from the truth! If saving a human life makes me a "right winger" then count me in! This has nothing to do with right or left, it has everything to do with what is right or wrong. Reproductive choices start with, she does not spread her legs, she uses a contraceptive, her partner uses a condom, not killing a conceived child. What other species on this plant kills their young??

You can insult me all you want, it doesn't make you right. The only quote I find that even mentions a specific race is one used continuously by the right completely out of context.
To answer your last question, which is entirely unrelated to this conversation. Lots of animals kill their own young, dogs, bears, cats, some primates, insects and fish and many others.

[Iowatech]

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Sorry, I just can't stand this kind of gross misinformation.



"Just google "planned parenthood 3% lie". I would be embarrassed to admit that I ever believed it. I mean, honestly, how many people go to planned parenthood for 'other services'? Come on, get real."



I did Google the phrase and would tend to agree with you that the 3% number is probably misleading. Most of the websites publishing this contradiction, I have never heard of before and seem to have a political bias to them. I do not believe some of the more extreme claims that 94% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortion services.

On the "other services" comment, I do believe that the vast majority of women going to Planned Parenthood do indeed get "other services', birth control being the most popular by far.

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[Iowatech]

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Sean Spicer was back at the White House today as Press Secretary. Thanks for correcting me.

Sean Spicer made news again on Saturday Night Live

Sean Spicer really was the White House Easter Bunny in 2008.

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