Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

[Copier Addict]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

Actually I believe you have confused a message I wrote to thengel which has the chart of hurricane strikes on the US from 1950 to 2007. The later part of which was when we were supposed to have multiple numbers of hurricanes striking the US each year. The evidence being the named storm of Katrina,much like Harvey and now Irma are being put forth as absolute proof of global warming. Then 2005 being the last year a major hurricane struck the us for nine years is ignored or dismissed as no proof the alarmist after Katrina were wrong.

And in another reply to theengel I posted a link to a French weatherman being fired for doubting global warming mantra. Neither of which links were in a repy to you.

This is what I was referencing when I said two links you conveniently neglected to respond to.
http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/re...l-warming.html

http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/re...3ixzz4XxkdKJAJ

The first one is kinda interesting, but the second one simply sounds like sour grapes to me.
As I have stated several times, I believe the climate is changing, but what is causing it is still unknown to me.
You don't seem to read anything I post.

[gneebore]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

The first one is kinda interesting, but the second one simply sounds like sour grapes to me.
As I have stated several times, I believe the climate is changing, but what is causing it is still unknown to me.
You don't seem to read anything I post.

As you don't read what I have said either. Records have shown that the era of the 1950's to 1970's was actually a cooler period of time than the preceding three decades. Which is when the "we're headed for another ice age because of pollution" crowd got their start only to abandon that and switched to humans causing global warming when temperatures did rise again to pre-50's averages. The human causing global warming crowd had repeatedly "estimated that by 2015 the temperature would be so high the polar ice caps would be gone. The latest NASA pictures show a slightly expanding Arctic ice cap. And if the Antarctic ice wasn't expanding then there wouldn't be icebergs breaking off and floating away in the oceans either. The ice would be melting and the water would be flowing into the sea instead.


But the second is an actual example of someone being fired for voicing an opinion contrary to the humans are to blame for global warming. In several posts people have been told to put up an actual link to your statement or it is not true so I provided an example to prove my point. I remember another weatherman fired, but right now can not find documentation, in California that was also released for voicing an opinion contrary to the "97 percent of scientists agree humans...." There have been other examples of teachers and professors voicing opinions skeptical of humans causing global warming and getting released or contracts not renewed. See them every now and then on fb.

[gneebore]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

I do believe the climate is changing, however, I'm not sure what the cause is. Yes, we are filling the atmosphere with CO2. Yes it is being absorbed by the oceans. What happens when the oceans can't absorb anymore? I don't know. Do you?

Saw this and I know I responded to you earlier but I remembered when looking for something else i found some info on co2 levels. There has actually been a study by USDA to stimulate the estimated levels and temperature at the end of the century. But I suspect that if co2 levels rise in the oceans then algae will also expand since plants use co2 to grow.

The search results seem to have both views on what will happen. This is the only experiment results page I could find without actually scrolling trough dozens of pages. But interesting results were obtained by the study.

https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2011/usda-scientists-study-effects-of-rising-carbon-dioxide-on-rangelands/

[slimslob]

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Okay, I will comment on the other links. The first one simply shows a picture of the US with a bunch of dots where hurricanes made landfall and their strength. I'm not sure what that has to do with people losing their jobs over global warming. The second link went nowhere. Not much to say about that one. So, good job!
I do believe the climate is changing, however, I'm not sure what the cause is. Yes, we are filling the atmosphere with CO2. Yes it is being absorbed by the oceans. What happens when the oceans can't absorb anymore? I don't know. Do you?

Saw this and I know I responded to you earlier but I remembered when looking for something else i found some info on co2 levels. There has actually been a study by USDA to stimulate the estimated levels and temperature at the end of the century. But I suspect that if co2 levels rise in the oceans then algae will also expand since plants use co2 to grow.

The search results seem to have both views on what will happen. This is the only experiment results page I could find without actually scrolling trough dozens of pages. But interesting results were obtained by the study.
https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events...on-rangelands/

Not only does algae use CO2 to grow, it releases oxygen in the process. CO2 to also used by all surface plant life to grow and in doing so, also release oxygen. Man's production of CO2 is not the primary cause of rising CO2 levels. Man's production of CO2, other than that which we produce just by breathing, has been declining. The increase in CO2 levels has not. What has been happening is the continuing loss of surface plant life, i.e. deforestation.
FAO - News Article: World deforestation slows down as more forests are better managed

[guitar9199]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

I used to believe that man might have had something to do with the climate, until the Mars Rover came along!!

Nobody could explain to me to my satisfaction that is Mankind WERE causing "Climate Change", then why was it that the temperatures on the planet Mars would rise and fall at the exact same rate as they do here on Earth??

...someone suggested they might have left the engine running on the Mars Rover...but I discounted that.

Here's the "Other side of the story"...

https://www.aninconsistenttruth.com/

[gneebore]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

Not only does algae use CO2 to grow, it releases oxygen in the process. CO2 to also used by all surface plant life to grow and in doing so, also release oxygen. Man's production of CO2 is not the primary cause of rising CO2 levels. Man's production of CO2, other than that which we produce just by breathing, has been declining. The increase in CO2 levels has not. What has been happening is the continuing loss of surface plant life, i.e. deforestation.

A very weird fact about North America is there are actually more forested acres now than in colonial times. Generally because of two reasons. National parks and commercial forestry. There are large areas in the west and in the Appalachian regions that are protected from commercial forestry because they are in national parks and wildlife areas. And there have been forests planted by lumber and paper companies to replace what they harvested and expand their access to more lumber. These are also regulated to minimize the effect on the local water shed. That however is opposite of the general trend worldwide.

https://www.bugwood.org/intensive/myths_and_facts_about_u_s__for.html

[gneebore]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

I used to believe that man might have had something to do with the climate, until the Mars Rover came along!!

Nobody could explain to me to my satisfaction that is Mankind WERE causing "Climate Change", then why was it that the temperatures on the planet Mars would rise and fall at the exact same rate as they do here on Earth??

...someone suggested they might have left the engine running on the Mars Rover...but I discounted that.

Here's the "Other side of the story"...

https://www.aninconsistenttruth.com/

I do believe someone else in another thread has pointed this out too.

[Copier Addict]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

Not only does algae use CO2 to grow, it releases oxygen in the process. CO2 to also used by all surface plant life to grow and in doing so, also release oxygen. Man's production of CO2 is not the primary cause of rising CO2 levels. Man's production of CO2, other than that which we produce just by breathing, has been declining. The increase in CO2 levels has not. What has been happening is the continuing loss of surface plant life, i.e. deforestation.

True, algae produces oxygen, but my thought is if it gets too much CO2 could it potentially become so healthy that it fills the oceans? I don't mean that as a joke, it is something I am curious about.
And just to clarify, deforestation could be considered an example of man made climate change. Lol

[ZOOTECH]

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http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/re..._u_s__for.html
I probably would have supported these 'facts' verses 'myths', if this report had been updated since 2003, and the 'facts' had referenced a study or paper from any source that could be researched. None of the tabs, such as, 'about', 'home', etc. work, so it is difficult to verify claims of 'fact'.

[ZOOTECH]

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Here is a link that is interesting reading: No Data Manipulation at NOAA - FactCheck.org Please, read to the end; I am aware this was funded by a CBS former president.
Whether, you agree or not, 'facts' can be 'proved' one way or another.
So, what is the absolute, utilmate 'fact' that can be accepted by the 'deniers', and the 'scientists' that can be agreed on, so a resolution of what is needed to fix this problem?

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Yale University in Connecticut offers a program on Climate Change Communication. They recently completed a survey on the opinions of Floridians about their beliefs on climate change.

Yale surveyed 18,000 people and have produced the below opinion map. You can easily adjust the drop down boxes to find out what people think about various climate change questions in your area of the USA.

Yale Climate Opinion Maps - U.S. 2016 - Yale Program on Climate Change Communication

Public Opinion Estimates, United States, 2016

The recently updated Yale Climate Opinion Maps offer insights about Floridians’ current climate change beliefs, risk perceptions, and policy support, and the potential for change in the wake of Irma. As of 2016, Floridians fall right in line with the national average on their belief in global warming: 70% believe it is happening. Yet, although much of the state is at risk from sea level rise and/or hurricanes, fewer than half (41%) of Floridians believe that global warming will harm them personally, and only slightly more than half (57%) are worried about global warming. At the same time, large majorities of Floridians support climate policies. 82% support funding more research into renewable energy sources and 75% would like to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant.

I suspect these numbers will change in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey & Irma.

[ZOOTECH]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

I have to say, that is one of the worst 'cut & paste' post I have ever tried to figure out.

[SalesServiceGuy]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

The original cut and paste looked worse. Something about the copytechnet website changes the appearance of pastes.

Check the link, you can find people's opinion on climate change in the county you live in.

Yale Climate Opinion Maps - U.S. 2016 - Yale Program on Climate Change Communication

[ZOOTECH]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

Tks, I can get it now.

[theengel]

Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

I used to get angry at the cut and paste way of communicating. Especially by certain Canadians. Then I heard something on the radio last night that kind of put it all in perspective.

Canadians, unlike Americans, don't have a spelled out freedom of speech.

If you're caught in Canada saying something contrary to leftist beliefs, you can be arrested for hate speech. That is why SalesServiceGuy can't articulate any thought. Because Big Brother is on his back. No one there is ALLOWED to think.