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  • gneebore
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    #76
    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Originally posted by copier addict
    LOL!!!! I truly hope you don't believe that. It would only go to prove you believe everything you read on your right wing websites. That would be quite sad.
    How about the the actual language of the bill for the Canadian Parliaments website.
    Government Bill (House of Commons) C-16 (42-1) - Royal Assent - An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code - Parliament of Canada

    And a little bit of cut and past and here you go actual language from the bill.
    Criminal Code
    2014, c. 31, s. 12


    3Subsection 318(4) of the Criminal Code is replaced by the following:


    Definition of identifiable group



    (4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.



    1995, c. 22, s. 6


    4Subparagraph 718.*2(a)*(i) of the Act is replaced by the following:


    (i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, or on any other similar factor,




    Published under authority of the Speaker of the House of Commons

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    • gneebore
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      #77
      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

      Originally posted by copier addict
      True, algae produces oxygen, but my thought is if it gets too much CO2 could it potentially become so healthy that it fills the oceans? I don't mean that as a joke, it is something I am curious about.
      And just to clarify, deforestation could be considered an example of man made climate change. Lol

      I also doubt that there would be too much algae. As you may or may not know algae is food for plankton, shrimp and other small aquatic animals and oh coral reefs. Plankton is a food source for other larger sea creatures like oh say blue whales. Might be good for the oceans to have algae multiple.

      Just for information

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      • gneebore
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        #78
        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

        Originally posted by Geo
        A little something to think about...

        Newsweek and others telling us about the upcoming ice age...

        The “brutal” winter is on the attack again, bringing sleet and heavy snow to the mid-Atlantic region. Previous storms targeted the deep south including Dallas, Texas, and several hammered New England. By March 4, Boston was just 2 inches away from hitting an all-time record for snow, Boston.com reported. It’s a reality more in keeping with media warnings from the 1970s than today’s arguments about global warming, like this one from Walter Cronkite in 1972.


        Newsweek on the cooling world

        All the science is settled (man is responsible for "climate change") folks are trying to mitigate this and other articles....But the fact remains...This was at that time the latest news.
        It was also the latest scientific conclusion.
        I knew there just had to be other stories about another ice age is coming.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #79
          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

          If there is one American institution that I believe in it is NASA. They conclude that the earth's climate is warming and likely due to human activities.

          "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

          https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

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          • theengel
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            #80
            Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

            One of the things I would bring up, concerning climate change, is the Dust Bowl. I'm no expert on the subject. I've done just a little more than watch the Ken Burns series on it (if you haven't seen it, you'll want to go ahead and marathon watch it right now--it's really good.)

            According to everything I know on it, we took the fruitful plains and practically turned them into a giant dessert. Then we took the same area and turned it back into farmland. This is a huge area and we definitely had an impact on it. First in a bad way then in a good way. All within in a single decade.

            The reason I point this out is to demonstrate that YES, we do have influence over our planet. And we have to pay attention to what we're doing. I believe we should be good stewards. But again, this was regional. I just don't see any evidence that we're changing anything globally.

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            • Copier Addict
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              #81
              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

              Originally posted by gneebore
              How about the the actual language of the bill for the Canadian Parliaments website.
              Government Bill (House of Commons) C-16 (42-1) - Royal Assent - An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code - Parliament of Canada

              And a little bit of cut and past and here you go actual language from the bill.
              Criminal Code
              2014, c. 31, s. 12


              3Subsection 318(4) of the Criminal Code is replaced by the following:


              Definition of identifiable group



              (4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.



              1995, c. 22, s. 6


              4Subparagraph 718.*2(a)*(i) of the Act is replaced by the following:


              (i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, or on any other similar factor,




              Published under authority of the Speaker of the House of Commons
              Okay. So, it is wrong to hate people. Seems like the Christian way to lead ones life. It is the way I try to live. You?

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              • theengel
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                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                You give the devil the benefit of law. If you want a free society, it's what you have to do. Take away the freedom, your society won't remain Christian for long.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #83
                  Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                  Originally posted by theengel
                  You give the devil the benefit of law. If you want a free society, it's what you have to do. Take away the freedom, your society won't remain Christian for long.
                  I was using the word "Christian" as a generic term. I don't care if one is Muslim, Jewish etc. Hating someone just just because of their appearance or what they worship, is wrong.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #84
                    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                    Here is an interesting article about what is happening to the oceans.

                    Ocean Acidification | Smithsonian Ocean Portal

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                    • theengel
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                      #85
                      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      I was using the word "Christian" as a generic term. I don't care if one is Muslim, Jewish etc. Hating someone just just because of their appearance or what they worship, is wrong.
                      The point is, once hatred (or hate speech) becomes a crime, it pretty much opens the door for the government to oppress people. Now anyone in disagreement with the ruling class is classified as a criminal.

                      Case in point: someone who was lecturing about Islam's treatment of women was detained by police, his property confiscated.

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                      • Copier Addict
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                        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                        Originally posted by theengel
                        The point is, once hatred (or hate speech) becomes a crime, it pretty much opens the door for the government to oppress people. Now anyone in disagreement with the ruling class is classified as a criminal.

                        Case in point: someone who was lecturing about Islam's treatment of women was detained by police, his property confiscated.
                        Allowing hatred to rule give rise to cowardly groups like the KKK and white supremacists.

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                        • Geo
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                          #87
                          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Allowing hatred to rule give rise to cowardly groups like the KKK and white supremacists.
                          So who determines and defines what is "hated" , hate speech or "cowardly groups" and why should they have the power to do so ? Also are these definitions static or fluid that can change as deemed necessary?

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                          • Geo
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                            #88
                            Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                            [QUOTE=SalesServiceGuy;576395]If there is one American institution that I believe in it is NASA. They conclude that the earth's climate is warming and likely due to human activities.

                            "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

                            The 97 % that you quoted is extremely misleading ,academically dishonest and dangerous. For example, if the scientific journals are only receptive to those that believe warming is due to human activates, then they will only publish supporting scientists.

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              #89
                              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Here is an interesting article about what is happening to the oceans.

                              Ocean Acidification | Smithsonian Ocean Portal
                              A long complex read that I knew nothing about and another topic that has to be considered in climate change or at least environmental change caused by mankind.

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                              • Copier Addict
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                                #90
                                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                                Originally posted by Geo
                                So who determines and defines what is "hated" , hate speech or "cowardly groups" and why should they have the power to do so ? Also are these definitions static or fluid that can change as deemed necessary?
                                I think anyone with a semblance of intelligence and compassion knows what "hatred" is. To hate a person just because their skin is a different colour, or because they worship a different "God" than you is ridiculous and pointless.

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