Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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  • gneebore
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    #226
    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Originally posted by theengel
    What do you mean, "meant to be?"
    Well taking a stab and looking at the general tone of the earlier post it seems he is implying we need to go back to before the industrial revolution and possibly return to the "hunter gatherer" stage of human existence or subsistence farming where you have you own little plot where you grow your own food and care for your own animals for food and clothing from the hides. Probably around the Bronze age. Oh wait that would mean someone actually had to mine the ore/metal and smelt the metal from the ore. And then form the metal into tools. Ah isn't that the basis of "business?"

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

      Of all of the islands in the Caribbean perhaps none was devastated more than the island nation of Dominica.


      "All of the island’s agriculture was wiped out, and entire forests were flattened in Maria’s wake. Tourism, a driving force in its economy, will be scarce in the months to come.
      As one ferocious storm followed another this hurricane season, Prime Minister Skerrit told “Nightline” that his country was on the front line of climate change and that its very survival was in question. Its future could serve as a warning to the world on the destruction global warming could bring.
      “To deny climate change … is to deny a truth we have just lived,” he told the United Nations five days after the storm, telling the world body that island nations like Dominica are paying the heaviest price for a phenomenon they had little to do with.
      “No generation has seen more than one Category 5 hurricane. We’ve seen two in two weeks,” Dominica's Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit told Ian Pannell, ABC News Reporter. “So if you want to have information that … climate change is a real phenomenon,"

      'It's all gone': Hurricane-ravaged Dominica, on the front line of climate change, fighting to survive - ABC News

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      • theengel
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        #228
        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

        Do you ever bother to fact check the crap you quote?

        There were 2 in 2007. 4 in 2005. 2 in 1933. 2 in 1932.

        I'm so glad the light is finally shining on you people.

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        • gneebore
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          #229
          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

          Originally posted by theengel
          Do you ever bother to fact check the crap you quote?

          There were 2 in 2007. 4 in 2005. 2 in 1933. 2 in 1932.

          I'm so glad the light is finally shining on you people.
          Just a guess but no he doesn't. He finds something that fits his preconceived notions and quotes that. In actuality the scale was not developed until 1971. The rating was then applied to storms where records were kept before then. The actual hurricane hunter aircraft were not used before 1943. And only flew into storms after they were reported by ocean going vessels in order to confirm speed and direction of advance when they formed in the Atlantic. Then once the storms reached the outer islands shore based weather readings could be recorded and broadcast. There may have been other storms that reached force five but never reached land. Or reached land where the weather stations were few and may have been damaged before accurate recordings could be taken.

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            ... but never before in recorded history has there been 2x Category 5 hurricanes to strike the same location in two weeks. The result is that the island nation of Dominica has been totally devastated even worse than Puerto Rico.


            ...........


            "Pretty soon there will be nine or 10 billion people [in the world]. We're going to have to change the way we do a lot of things. We're going to have to adapt. This is nothing new, you've got to be ready to change. Change is the only thing you can count on," Bill Nye tells the CBC's The Current's Anna Maria Tremonti.
            "Adaptation is the way of living things. Living things that don't adapt disappear."

            Bill Nye says the climate change deniers speaking out on influential media are leaving the world in worse shape than they found it.
            He suggests rationally addressing problems to create solutions.
            "When you respect facts, when you acknowledge what's really happening around you, you're quicker to adapt, quicker to make changes, quicker to do things in your own best interest," Nye says.
            "By ignoring facts, by not accepting the scientific method, by not acknowledging how much we know about nature, you're going to be at a real disadvantage as the world changes around you."
            'If you like to worry about things, you're living at a great time.'- Bill Nye
            Nye says that people who deny climate change exists tend to be 50 years of age and older.
            "Young people are very concerned about it and ready to make changes."
            But he suggests it's unclear there are enough young voters to get legislation, regulations, and infrastructure in place to address climate change "in a timely fashion."

            Bill Nye says climate change deniers need to 'respect facts' - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio

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            • Copier Addict
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              #231
              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

              Originally posted by theengel
              Do you ever bother to fact check the crap you quote?

              There were 2 in 2007. 4 in 2005. 2 in 1933. 2 in 1932.

              I'm so glad the light is finally shining on you people.
              I would say, after reading the article, that maybe no generation on Dominica has seen more than one cat 5 hurricane. Since it was the prime minister of Dominica who made the statement.
              Just my "not flying off the handle" opinion. Lol

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              • theengel
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                #232
                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                Now he's quoting the Bill Nye the Engineer... World famous doufus.

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                • gneebore
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                  Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                  Originally posted by theengel
                  Now he's quoting the Bill Nye the Engineer... World famous doufus.
                  But he must be right he is "the Science Guy" and we all know entertainment figures are always named for their abilities right?

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                    Ridiculing the messenger (Bill Nye) does not degrade the message. Human over population is another factor contributing to global climate change.

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                    • mikadonovan
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                      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                      Ridiculing the messenger (Bill Nye) does not degrade the message. Human over population is another factor contributing to global climate change.
                      That's right, just like cows. Way too many farty people adding methane to the atmosphere.
                      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                      • Phil B.
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                        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                        "Ridiculing the messenger (Bill Nye) does not degrade the message. Human over population is another factor contributing to global climate change."

                        1) bill nye is NOT a scientist ..
                        2) U.N. Agenda 21 and 30 will help depopulate the world.

                        IF these "so called" scientists REALLY did research they would know that their " Climate Change" is cyclical and not some impending doomsday. It is ALL concocted to make the wealth richer and to control the 'surfs/peasants'.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                          Originally posted by gneebore
                          But he must be right he is "the Science Guy" and we all know entertainment figures are always named for their abilities right?
                          Do you mean entertainment figures like Donald Trump?

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                          • Phil B.
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                            Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                            Originally posted by copier addict
                            Do you mean entertainment figures like Donald Trump?
                            Nye wishes he had the brains and the money of Trump... and Trump doesn't want Nye's bowties.

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                            • gneebore
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                              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              Do you mean entertainment figures like Donald Trump?
                              Ah sorry but Donald Trump was a businessman long before he became an entertainment figure. He started in NY real estate in the 70's. And like most successful people he took risks that in some cases caused him to lose money. But still over all a successful businessman. But then with your comment you are looking only at his entertainment endeavors as his claim to fame. And then denigrate him and his followers.

                              Actually living and working in the New York and New Jersey area in the mid 70's and early 80's I knew about Donald Trump as a successful real estate developer back then. Several of our techs worked on the office equipment in his businesses.

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                              • gneebore
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                                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                                Originally posted by Phil B.
                                "Ridiculing the messenger (Bill Nye) does not degrade the message. Human over population is another factor contributing to global climate change."

                                1) bill nye is NOT a scientist ..
                                2) U.N. Agenda 21 and 30 will help depopulate the world.

                                IF these "so called" scientists REALLY did research they would know that their " Climate Change" is cyclical and not some impending doomsday. It is ALL concocted to make the wealth richer and to control the 'surfs/peasants'.
                                Oh yes we are supposed to take the word of a children's tv show host as actual scientific fact. Because he was billed on the kiddie show as the "science guy." And now the expert on all things concerning so called global warming is adding human overpopulation as another cause of the global warming. Which by the way is no longer the preferred term. It is now "climate change"
                                Last edited by gneebore; 10-19-2017, 09:48 PM.

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