Anti-vaccine ridiculousness

[Copier Addict]

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As stated before kids don't need the shot, they are basically immune.

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I would like you post some actual science that shows kids are "basically immune" to covid.

[oreoh]

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I would like you post some actual science that shows kids are "basically immune" to covid.

Not exactly what you're looking for but read this...

Antibody and T-cell responses
In children, the limited seroprevalence (the level of a pathogen in a population, as measured in blood serum) data suggest antibodies persist for > or equal to 2 months; vaccine-mediated immunity is being evaluated in clinic trials.


The authors declare that this study received funding from Pfizer Inc. The funder had the following involvement in the study: Editorial/medical writing support. JF is a speaker for Pfizer and a consultant/advisory board member for Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline. AS is a Pfizer employee and may hold stock or stock options.

Another paper
Purpose of review: In this article, I have reviewed current reports that explore differences and similarities between multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) and other known multisystem inflammatory diseases seen in children, particularly Kawasaki disease.


Recent findings: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is a human coronavirus causing the COVID-19 disease which emerged in China in December 2019 and spread rapidly to the entire country and quickly to other countries. Currently, there is a pandemic of SARS-CoV-2 infection that results in 20% of patients admitted to hospital with illness, with 3% developing intractable acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) with high mortality. However, pediatric COVID-19 is still reported to be a mild disease, affecting only 8% of children. Pathogenesis in children is comparable to adults. There are suggested impaired activation of IFN-alpha and IFN regulator 3, decreased cell response causing impaired viral defense, yet the clinical course is mild, and almost all children recover from the infection without major complications. Interestingly, there is a subset of patients that develop a late but marked immunogenic response to COVID-19 and develop MIS-C. Clinical features of MIS-C resemble certain pediatric rheumatologic diseases, such as Kawasaki disease (mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome) which affects small-medium vessels. Other features of MIS-C resemble those of macrophage activation syndrome (MAS). However, recent research suggests distinct clinical and laboratory differences between MIS-C, Kawasaki disease, and MAS. Since the start of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, MIS-C has become the candidate for the most common cause of acquired heart disease in children.

[Copier Addict]

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Not exactly what you're looking for but read this...

Antibody and T-cell responses
In children, the limited seroprevalence (the level of a pathogen in a population, as measured in blood serum) data suggest antibodies persist for > or equal to 2 months; vaccine-mediated immunity is being evaluated in clinic trials.


The authors declare that this study received funding from Pfizer Inc. The funder had the following involvement in the study: Editorial/medical writing support. JF is a speaker for Pfizer and a consultant/advisory board member for Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline. AS is a Pfizer employee and may hold stock or stock options.

Another paper
Purpose of review: In this article, I have reviewed current reports that explore differences and similarities between multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) and other known multisystem inflammatory diseases seen in children, particularly Kawasaki disease.


Recent findings: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is a human coronavirus causing the COVID-19 disease which emerged in China in December 2019 and spread rapidly to the entire country and quickly to other countries. Currently, there is a pandemic of SARS-CoV-2 infection that results in 20% of patients admitted to hospital with illness, with 3% developing intractable acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) with high mortality. However, pediatric COVID-19 is still reported to be a mild disease, affecting only 8% of children. Pathogenesis in children is comparable to adults. There are suggested impaired activation of IFN-alpha and IFN regulator 3, decreased cell response causing impaired viral defense, yet the clinical course is mild, and almost all children recover from the infection without major complications. Interestingly, there is a subset of patients that develop a late but marked immunogenic response to COVID-19 and develop MIS-C. Clinical features of MIS-C resemble certain pediatric rheumatologic diseases, such as Kawasaki disease (mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome) which affects small-medium vessels. Other features of MIS-C resemble those of macrophage activation syndrome (MAS). However, recent research suggests distinct clinical and laboratory differences between MIS-C, Kawasaki disease, and MAS. Since the start of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, MIS-C has become the candidate for the most common cause of acquired heart disease in children.

So, this study states the children are NOT immune to covid.
It says they show less acute symptoms.
I hope Phil reads this and has the courage to admit he was wrong

[slimslob]

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So, this study states the children are NOT immune to covid.
It says they show less acute symptoms.
I hope Phil reads this and has the courage to admit he was wrong

Less acute symptoms is an indication that the auto immune system has kicked in and is creating anti bodies to combat and eventually destroy the virus.

[slimslob]

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More than 750,000 dead from adverse reactions to the vaccines compared to 1,043,281 dead from a virus that has a 99% survival rate!!!!!

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United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

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Less acute symptoms is an indication that the auto immune system has kicked in and is creating anti bodies to combat and eventually destroy the virus.

Yup, finally some facts out of you Slimjim.
Are you able to admit the children are not "basically immune" to covid?

[slimslob]

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Yup, finally some facts out of you Slimjim.
Are you able to admit the children are not "basically immune" to covid?

Nobody who has never been exposed to certain class of virus has anti bodies to that virus until they are exposed to it. Young children whose auto immune system has not yet been compromised will start producing anti bodies within minute of recognizing a virus is has not encountered. Basically immune no, nearly immediate immune after first exposure YES. And if the exposure was minimal, no symptoms or disease.

[bsm2]

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Nobody who has never been exposed to certain class of virus has anti bodies to that virus until they are exposed to it. Young children whose auto immune system has not yet been compromised will start producing anti bodies within minute of recognizing a virus is has not encountered. Basically immune no, nearly immediate immune after first exposure YES. And if the exposure was minimal, no symptoms or disease.

And with No Vaccine Covid19 can cause serious illness or DEATH.

No Vaccine ZERO protection

[oreoh]

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And with No Vaccine Covid19 can cause serious illness or DEATH.

No Vaccine ZERO protection

My question then is, will you bet your house on this statement alone?

[bsm2]

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My question then is, will you bet your house on this statement alone?

I bet my life on it

I got the Vaccine and 2 boosters

Will you bet your children life on not protecting them?

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Nobody who has never been exposed to certain class of virus has anti bodies to that virus until they are exposed to it. Young children whose auto immune system has not yet been compromised will start producing anti bodies within minute of recognizing a virus is has not encountered. Basically immune no, nearly immediate immune after first exposure YES. And if the exposure was minimal, no symptoms or disease.

Do you even know what "immune" means? This statement of yours certainly proves you don't.
You have twisted yourself into a knot trying to defend a lie from you buddy Phil. It's truly cute how the two of you rush to defend each other, but a lie is a lie no matter how good the defense is

[oreoh]

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I bet my life on it

I got the Vaccine and 2 boosters

Will you bet your children life on not protecting them?

So, the answer is No I guess.

[bsm2]

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So, the answer is No I guess.

Guess WRONG DUMMY

Will you bet your children life on not protecting them?

[copiertec]

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Here is an interesting story back in 2010 and Pfizer and their illegal experiments on Nigerian children. Never brought up on mainstream media.
WikiLeaks Cables: Pfizer Targeted Nigerian Attorney General to Undermine Suit over Fatal Drug Tests | Democracy Now!

[slimslob]

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And with No Vaccine Covid19 can cause serious illness or DEATH.

99% survivable. Total deaths world wide due to COVID since it first was detected, 6,361.189 as of today's reports. Deaths from cancer this year to date 4,125,365 and counting. More people die from cancer every year than have died from COVID in over two and a half years. Worldometer - real time world statistics COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

No Vaccine ZERO protection

People with healthy immune systems don't need vaccines.