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  • Copier Addict
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    #6196
    Re: Let the truth be known

    Originally posted by slimslob
    The cat is out of the bag. They are coming after your weapons. If they even think you might have weapon to defend tour home with, it won't be long before the Democrats jack booted will be breaking down your door in the middle of the night. And if you try to resist just remember what Clinton AG Janet Reno did to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

    What is next? Maybe your kitchen cutlery?
    Won't you be upset when, after four years you still have your guns? Lol

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #6197
      Re: Let the truth be known

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      I'll be the one standing in a pile of empty shells... Molon Labe

      ... you will be the one laying on the ground surrounded by a couple of empty shells.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        #6198
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        ... you do know that the Epoch Times is a front for the Falun Gong Chinese religious group?

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #6199
          Re: Let the truth be known

          Originally posted by slimslob
          The cat is out of the bag. They are coming after your weapons. If they even think you might have weapon to defend tour home with, it won't be long before the Democrats jack booted will be breaking down your door in the middle of the night. And if you try to resist just remember what Clinton AG Janet Reno did to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

          What is next? Maybe your kitchen cutlery?
          ... off the hook gun paranoia.

          If the Democrats win control of the Senate, Universal background checks, favored by the overwhelming majority of US citizens, ever since Sandy Hook, will quickly become law.

          Due to recent internal money scandals, the NRA has never been weaker.

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          • Phil B.
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            #6200
            Re: Let the truth be known

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            ... you will be the one laying on the ground surrounded by a couple of empty shells.
            I quali'd as marksman.

            1 weapon is sighted it at 300yrds.

            another weapon has a 60rnd mag

            if I go it won't be a couple of shells.

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            • slimslob
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              #6201
              Re: Let the truth be known

              Originally posted by Phil B.
              human error6,000 votes in just ONE Michigan County?

              orderedThe Daily WireThe Detroit Free PressThe Detroit NewsDominion systems were widely used through out the country... one county (out of 83) in MI had 6,000 votes switched to Biden, wonder how many other states/counties have had the votes stolen?
              People should have been suspicious just from the name Dominion.Things named the Dominion frequently represent the dark and evil side of human nature.
              Then there was an evil battalion of dark warlocks and witches known as the Dominion in the Halloween Town movies..

              Then for those who are Star Trek: Deep Space Nine there is The Dominion, a race of shape shifters from the Delta quadrant that seek to dominate the Alpha quadrant.

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              • Phil B.
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                #6202
                Re: Let the truth be known

                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                ... off the hook gun paranoia.

                If the Democrats win control of the Senate, Universal background checks, favored by the overwhelming majority of US citizens, ever since Sandy Hook, will quickly become law.

                Due to recent internal money scandals, the NRA has never been weaker.
                to purchase a semi-auto weapon you have to go thru a state and federal background check. So it's already on the books.
                I don't know where you're getting the 'overwhelming' part (maybe CNN) but I call bullshit on that.

                Samdy Hook was caused by a mother who didn't secure her weapons properly. All of the weapons and ammunition used in the massacre were purchased by Nancy, after all. She was responsible for bringing the weapons into the home, and thus responsible for taking reasonable measures to keep them away from anyone dangerous. from the Sandy Hook Lighthouse.

                IMHO I think we need more MENTAL evals on the purchaser of the weapon. I have to renew my CCW permit every 7 years here in NC. I would be MORE than willing to take a mental test upon renewing. As long as the eval is included in the price of my renewal fee.

                The reason for the NRA losing funds is due to LAWYER fees due to law suits. I am a life member of the NRA.

                EDIT along with mental test for the owner.. I think we should test everyone living in the household. You CANNOT have a weapon in the residence with a felon around/living there. And a felon cannot buy/posses a firearm.. that alone is a felony. Rarely enforced UNLESS the felon is caught in possession of a weapon.

                And despite what Biden tells you, you CANNOT go to your balcony and let 2 rounds of 12ga into the air to scare people away. WARNING shots are against the law in the majority of states, esp in a close quarters neighborhood. Definitely not within city limits.

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                • slimslob
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                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                  ... off the hook gun paranoia.

                  If the Democrats win control of the Senate, Universal background checks, favored by the overwhelming majority of US citizens, ever since Sandy Hook, will quickly become law.

                  Due to recent internal money scandals, the NRA has never been weaker.
                  You mention Sandy Hook. At Sandy Hook there were a total of 26 shooting deaths, 20 of them children. Meanwhile in Chicago, one of the US cities with all the gun laws in place that the Democrat(NAZI) politicians want for the whole nation there are often 30 or more shooting deaths almost every Saturday night.

                  In addition to that, at the Branch Davidian compound 13 miles northeast of Waco, TX where on April 19, 1993 the the FBI under the direction of Janet Reno incinerated 76 members of Branch Davidia including 25 children and 2 pregnant women.

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    #6204
                    Re: Let the truth be known

                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    to purchase a semi-auto weapon you have to go thru a state and federal background check. So it's already on the books.
                    I don't know where you're getting the 'overwhelming' part (maybe CNN) but I call bullshit on that.

                    Samdy Hook was caused by a mother who didn't secure her weapons properly. All of the weapons and ammunition used in the massacre were purchased by Nancy, after all. She was responsible for bringing the weapons into the home, and thus responsible for taking reasonable measures to keep them away from anyone dangerous. from the Sandy Hook Lighthouse.

                    IMHO I think we need more MENTAL evals on the purchaser of the weapon. I have to renew my CCW permit every 7 years here in NC. I would be MORE than willing to take a mental test upon renewing. As long as the eval is included in the price of my renewal fee.

                    The reason for the NRA losing funds is due to LAWYER fees due to law suits. I am a life member of the NRA.

                    EDIT along with mental test for the owner.. I think we should test everyone living in the household. You CANNOT have a weapon in the residence with a felon around/living there. And a felon cannot buy/posses a firearm.. that alone is a felony. Rarely enforced UNLESS the felon is caught in possession of a weapon.

                    And despite what Biden tells you, you CANNOT go to your balcony and let 2 rounds of 12ga into the air to scare people away. WARNING shots are against the law in the majority of states, esp in a close quarters neighborhood. Definitely not within city limits.
                    ... 72% of NRA members favor Universal background checks.

                    The Vast Majority of Americans Support Universal Background Checks. Why Doesn’t Congress? | The Institute of Politics at Harvard University

                    ... the reason why the NRA is in such bad financial shape is that the President Wayne LaPierre and his cronies were living a lavish lifestyle on the expense account. Donations dropped and its charitable status could be revoked by New York state on charges of illegal activities.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #6205
                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Originally posted by Phil B.
                      to purchase a semi-auto weapon you have to go thru a state and federal background check. So it's already on the books.
                      I don't know where you're getting the 'overwhelming' part (maybe CNN) but I call bullshit on that.

                      Samdy Hook was caused by a mother who didn't secure her weapons properly. All of the weapons and ammunition used in the massacre were purchased by Nancy, after all. She was responsible for bringing the weapons into the home, and thus responsible for taking reasonable measures to keep them away from anyone dangerous. from the Sandy Hook Lighthouse.

                      IMHO I think we need more MENTAL evals on the purchaser of the weapon. I have to renew my CCW permit every 7 years here in NC. I would be MORE than willing to take a mental test upon renewing. As long as the eval is included in the price of my renewal fee.

                      The reason for the NRA losing funds is due to LAWYER fees due to law suits. I am a life member of the NRA.

                      EDIT along with mental test for the owner.. I think we should test everyone living in the household. You CANNOT have a weapon in the residence with a felon around/living there. And a felon cannot buy/posses a firearm.. that alone is a felony. Rarely enforced UNLESS the felon is caught in possession of a weapon.

                      And despite what Biden tells you, you CANNOT go to your balcony and let 2 rounds of 12ga into the air to scare people away. WARNING shots are against the law in the majority of states, esp in a close quarters neighborhood. Definitely not within city limits.
                      I suspect the guy that you're talking to has read a lot about guns but has never fired one in his life. He just strikes me as a guy who has read about a lot of things but hasn't much life experience in dealing with the things that he's read about.
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • Phil B.
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                        #6206
                        Re: Let the truth be known

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        I suspect the guy that you're talking to has read a lot about guns but has never fired one in his life. He just strikes me as a guy who has read about a lot of things but hasn't much life experience in dealing with the things that he's read about.
                        I read A LOT. Some to get info on a subject...

                        MOSTLY for the LOVE of my hobbies: Computers/Copiers/politics but my reading on Guns and Fishing have been mainstays of my life since I could hold a Gun/Rod.

                        I have 10 times the number of fishing rods to the number of firearms right now it is a 10+/1 ratio.. I own 10 firearms.. you do the math.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          Re: Let the truth be known

                          AZ GOP Chair: When 30% of Democrats Think the Election Was Stolen from Trump, You Know Something's Wrong

                          By Kelli Ward
                          Published December 15, 2020 at 3:03pm


                          The voting public needs to be confident that in our state, and in our nation, we hold free and fair elections. That is why the Arizona Republican Party is doing everything we can to ensure voters trust that a free process leads to fair results.
                          The media pollsters this cycle were terribly wrong, about which I have written previously. The published polls seemed more like an attempt to discourage Republican voters instead of take the pulse of the electorate.
                          But while the polling showed one thing, other indicators reflected a sentiment that President Trump had a distinct advantage going into Election Day. Betting oddscoronavirus as a reason to barely campaign, President Trump held massive rallies across many states where people turned out in spite of pandemic fears. In contrast, the Biden campaign struggled to mobilize any sort of crowds, even socially isolated in vehicles.
                          Even in overwhelmingly blue states such as California and New York, Biden received 64 and 61 percent of the vote respectively. Yet they are expected to accept that 76 percent of mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania favored Joe Biden?

                          That sounds fair to the same media that would have us believe so-called statisticians such as Nate Silver, who predicted Trump had a 36 percent chancefiery but mostly peaceful protestsThese same producers and reporters are asking us to believe that the lackluster Joe Biden received millions of more votes than Barack Obama, the most inspirational Democratic presidential candidate of this generation. That is a tough sell.

                          RasmussenThirty percentThe Federalist pointed out, American voters on both sides of the aisle mistrust the fundamental integrity of our elections.

                          A 2018 Gallup poll showed 78 percent of Democrats still believed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and changed the outcome. This is despite years of investigations that only managed to show a $100,000 social media buy which would have had no chance of changing the election.
                          This year, Republicans have a sinking feeling in their stomach about the 2020 election. They see anomalies similar to those observers saw in the Gabon elections in 2016

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                          • Phil B.
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                            Dominion Audit: Ballot Error Rate Was At Least 85,000 Times Higher Than FEC Allows


                            A Michigan judge ordered the release Monday of an independent forensic audit report of the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in Antrim County, which flipped from a win for Democrat Joe Biden to President Donald Trump after a glitch was discovered and corrected.
                            The audit, which was led by Russell Ramsland of the Dallas-based Allied Security Operations Group, revealed over a 68 percent ballot error rate — at least 85,000 times higher than the Federal Election Commission guidelines allow.
                            Additionally, Ramsland’s team reported the “extremely suspicious” absence of logs regarding the abnormally high number of digitally adjudicated ballots.
                            Antrim County in northern Michigan made headlines last month after the discovery of an Election Day computer “glitch” that had falsely switched the county from a win for Trump to a Biden victory.
                            The amended results showed the president winning the county with 9,748 votes to Biden’s 5,960.
                            Ramsland’s report said that of the 15,676 individual voting events recorded on the Dominion Voting Systems in Antrim County, 10,667 ballots — 68.05 percent — were errors.
                            The allowable election error rate established by the FEC guidelines is 1 in 500,000 ballots, but Ramsland’s team used 1 in 125,000 or 0.0008 percent, making the requirement less strict to account for vagueness in the law, Ramsland said in a text to The Western Journal.
                            In other words, what occurred in Antrim County was at least 85,000 times higher than what is allowable.
                            Ramsland’s team also said it found that a “staggering number” of votes were digitally adjudicated in 2020.
                            The report explains that Dominion software classifies ballots in two categories: normal and adjudicated.
                            Ballots sent to adjudication can be altered by administrators, as was demonstrated by an election worker in Georgia last week.
                            “A staggering number of votes required adjudication,” the report said. “This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency and no audit trail.”
                            “Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all the adjudication logs log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing,” Ramsland’s team said. “The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software.
                            “Removal of these files violates state law and prevents a meaningful audit, even if the [secretary of state] wanted to conduct an audit. We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed.”
                            The audit also found Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s statement on Nov. 6 that “the correct results [in Antrim] always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape” to be false.
                            Sixty-four Michigan counties use Dominion Voting Systems, according to WLNS-TV in Lansing.
                            Attorneys for the state of Michigan sought to prevent the Ramsland audit from being released, the Detroit Free Press reported Monday.
                            Assistant Attorney General Erik Grill called it “inaccurate, incomplete and misleading.”
                            However, Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of the 13th Circuit Court in Michigan approved the release with some references to software coding redacted.
                            Current results in the state show Biden leading Trump by approximately 154,000 votes.
                            In an interview in the spring, Ramsland told The Western Journal those seeking to swing a U.S. presidential election electronically would just have to focus on a few key swing states.
                            “So if you want to change the presidency of this country, all you really have to do is put your whole team on making sure that your guy wins precinct by precinct in at least a semi-believable number in five states and probably only the big metropolitan areas of five states,” he said.
                            The Arizona Republican Party has filed suit to gain access to review the digitally adjudicated and duplicated ballots in Maricopa County, which encompasses Phoenix and also uses Dominion Voting Systems.
                            An initial review of 100 random ballots allowed by a judge found a 3 percent variance in favor of Biden.
                            Arizona GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward said Monday that the case is being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court after being rejected by the Arizona Supreme Court.
                            Biden’s current lead in the Grand Canyon State is 10,457 votes.

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #6209
                              Re: Let the truth be known

                              Originally posted by Phil B.
                              I read A LOT. Some to get info on a subject...

                              MOSTLY for the LOVE of my hobbies: Computers/Copiers/politics but my reading on Guns and Fishing have been mainstays of my life since I could hold a Gun/Rod.

                              I have 10 times the number of fishing rods to the number of firearms right now it is a 10+/1 ratio.. I own 10 firearms.. you do the math.

                              Understood but you've actually fired a gun. A LOT. Same goes for copiers.

                              Can you imagine some guy that has read about copiers and guns his whole life but has no practical experience with them and claims to be an authority on them? That's who you're dealing with. Sad but true.
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                              • Copier Addict
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                                Re: Let the truth be known

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Understood but you've actually fired a gun. A LOT. Same goes for copiers.

                                Can you imagine some guy that has read about copiers and guns his whole life but has no practical experience with them and claims to be an authority on them? That's who you're dealing with. Sad but true.
                                When exactly did you and Sales Service Guy meet and discuss his gun experience? I'm just curious.

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