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  • bsm2
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    #5206
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by Phil B.
    good job you senile old fuck! Bet you sold them to china ! Oh what a great failure it's been in a few short days!
    Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
    good Job
    Again Happy New Year America Back

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    • Phil B.
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      #5207
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by bsm2
      Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
      good Job
      Again Happy New Year America Back
      Trump didn't LOSE 20 million doses.
      Keep on track numbnuts

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      • bsm2
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        #5208
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by Phil B.
        Trump didn't LOSE 20 million doses.
        Keep on track numbnuts

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        Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
        good Job
        Again Happy New Year America Back

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        • Phil B.
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          #5209
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by bsm2
          Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
          good Job
          Again Happy New Year America Back
          It was the Biden admin that lost the doses.
          Keep up simpleton

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          • bsm2
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            #5210
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Originally posted by Phil B.
            It was the Biden admin that lost the doses.
            Keep up simpleton

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            Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
            good Job
            Again Happy New Year America Back

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            • Phil B.
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              #5211
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by bsm2
              Thanks for pointout the Screws Ups from the Trump Administration
              good Job
              Again Happy New Year America Back
              Here again you and yours held Trump responsible from day one..
              Hows that shoe fit one YOUR foot? A little tight?
              Biden has passed off the American legal citizens..
              The rulers of China even after the huge money dumps and hacking they did for him.
              The Noko's
              The mullahs
              Half of the rest of the world.
              The only ones he HASN'T passed off is his DNC handlers and you sheep that kiss his ass and carry the senile old fools water.

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              • SalesServiceGuy
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                #5212
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by Phil B.
                It was the Biden admin that lost the doses.
                Keep up simpleton

                Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
                I really think you need to take a walk in nature to reground yourself in reality.

                You have created a world in your mind that threatens you and the only way you know how to respond is to threaten back.

                Are you going to keep on doing this for the next four years regardless of the toll on your mental and personal health?

                425,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 before their time and many more will die in the coming months.

                The best scientists in the world are working 24/7 with unlimited resources to bring this pandemic under control.

                All you seem to want to do is criticize and throw stones at the Biden Administration.

                How is this going to help anybody?

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #5213
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Even though SalesServiceGuy assured me that Canada has secured enough vaccine from the EU, it appears that the EU has other ideas. The World Heath Organization is begging the EU to pause their vaccinations to allow Canada and other countries to catch up..


                  What's the moral of the story? Never depend on SalesServiceGuy to be right about much of anything.




                  The World Health Organization (WHO) has asked Britain to pause vaccinations once at-risk groups are inoculated, so doses can be “fairly distributed” overseas.



                  But Margaret Harris, a spokeswoman for the United Nations’ World Health Organization, is now asking the British government to pause vaccinations after the clinically vulnerable and key groups such as health workers are taken care of, diverting resources elsewhere in the name of fairness and, supposedly, the global economy.
                  “We’re asking all countries in those circumstances to do that: ‘hang on, wait for those [in other countries]’,” said Harris in a BBC interview quoted by STV News.
                  “We’ll also appeal to all the people of the UK – you can wait,” she continued.



                  “We’re asking countries, once you’ve got those [high risk and health care worker] groups, please ensure that the supply you’ve got access to is provided for others,” Harris added.
                  Such a move would be a boon not only for the third world but for the European Union, which has found itself increasingly embarrassed at the way Britain is leaving it behind.
                  Indeed, many national governments in the bloc making their own arrangements as it attempts to make up for failings in its central procurement programme by threatening to seize UK-purchased vaccines made in the EU, even announcing a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and British Northern Ireland in order to restrict vaccine movements — a move which was quickly reversed after it caused a major row between Brussels and the Irish government, as well as British politicians in London and Belfast.



                  The WHO spokeswoman suggested that diverting vaccines from British citizens was not just “morally clearly the right thing to do, it’s also economically the right thing to do.”
                  “There have been a number of very interesting analyses showing that just vaccinating your own country and then sitting there and saying ‘we’re fine’ will not work economically,” she claimed.






                  “That phrase ‘no man is an island’ applies economically as well.
                  “We in the world, we’re so connected and unless we get all societies working effectively once again, every society will be financially effected.”
                  Whether or not the “very interesting analyses” seen by Harris account for the negative impact of sending vaccines overseas and potentially prolonging lockdown for local businesses such as pubs and restaurants as a result was not made clear in the interview.



                  The contribution of the WHO to the coronavirus pandemic is a source of some debate, with many — including the former Trump administration in the United States — believing that it has been incompetent at best and more concerned with providing cover for the Chinese Communist Party than saving lives at worst.
                  Former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus of having been “bought” by China, while President Donald Trump said the UN agency was “literally a pipe organ” for its communist regime.
                  Tedros, a Marxist politician from Ethiopia, has said criticism of him is rooted in racism and an insult to Africa and “the black community”, and blamed Taiwan — which warned the WHO about the coronavirus in December 2019 to no avail — for much of it.
                  Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 02-01-2021, 05:54 AM.
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                  • bsm2
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                    • Tricky
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                      #5215
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Even though SalesServiceGuy assured me that Canada has secured enough vaccine from the EU, it appears that the EU has other ideas. The World Heath Organization is begging the EU to pause their vaccinations to allow Canada and other countries to catch up..
                      England is not part of the EU as of January this year and as a matter of interest the EU has introduced restrictions on export of the vaccines.
                      Covid: What’s happening to the EU vaccine scheme? - BBC News

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                      The World Health Organization (WHO) has asked Britain to pause vaccinations once at-risk groups are inoculated, so doses can be “fairly distributed” overseas.
                      They should be criticizing the EU not us but globalists being what they are don't like independent countries doing their own thing.

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                      • slimslob
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                        #5216
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                        The World Health Organization (WHO) has asked Britain to pause vaccinations once at-risk groups are inoculated, so doses can be “fairly distributed” overseas.
                        Originally posted by skynet
                        England is not part of the EU as of January this year and as a matter of interest the EU has introduced restrictions on export of the vaccines.
                        Covid: What’s happening to the EU vaccine scheme? - BBC News



                        They should be criticizing the EU not us but globalists being what they are don't like independent countries doing their own thing.
                        Britain should tell WHO that they, Britain, consider all of their citizens to be in "at-risk" groups. You would think that there would be countries in the EU capable of developing and producing vaccines.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          #5217
                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          Even though SalesServiceGuy assured me that Canada has secured enough vaccine from the EU, it appears that the EU has other ideas. The World Heath Organization is begging the EU to pause their vaccinations to allow Canada and other countries to catch up..


                          What's the moral of the story? Never depend on SalesServiceGuy to be right about much of anything.




                          The World Health Organization (WHO) has asked Britain to pause vaccinations once at-risk groups are inoculated, so doses can be “fairly distributed” overseas.





                          But Margaret Harris, a spokeswoman for the United Nations’ World Health Organization, is now asking the British government to pause vaccinations after the clinically vulnerable and key groups such as health workers are taken care of, diverting resources elsewhere in the name of fairness and, supposedly, the global economy.
                          “We’re asking all countries in those circumstances to do that: ‘hang on, wait for those [in other countries]’,” said Harris in a BBC interview quoted by STV News.
                          “We’ll also appeal to all the people of the UK – you can wait,” she continued.



                          “We’re asking countries, once you’ve got those [high risk and health care worker] groups, please ensure that the supply you’ve got access to is provided for others,” Harris added.
                          Such a move would be a boon not only for the third world but for the European Union, which has found itself increasingly embarrassed at the way Britain is leaving it behind.
                          Indeed, many national governments in the bloc making their own arrangements as it attempts to make up for failings in its central procurement programme by threatening to seize UK-purchased vaccines made in the EU, even announcing a hard border between the Republic of Ireland and British Northern Ireland in order to restrict vaccine movements — a move which was quickly reversed after it caused a major row between Brussels and the Irish government, as well as British politicians in London and Belfast.



                          The WHO spokeswoman suggested that diverting vaccines from British citizens was not just “morally clearly the right thing to do, it’s also economically the right thing to do.”
                          “There have been a number of very interesting analyses showing that just vaccinating your own country and then sitting there and saying ‘we’re fine’ will not work economically,” she claimed.






                          “That phrase ‘no man is an island’ applies economically as well.
                          “We in the world, we’re so connected and unless we get all societies working effectively once again, every society will be financially effected.”
                          Whether or not the “very interesting analyses” seen by Harris account for the negative impact of sending vaccines overseas and potentially prolonging lockdown for local businesses such as pubs and restaurants as a result was not made clear in the interview.



                          The contribution of the WHO to the coronavirus pandemic is a source of some debate, with many — including the former Trump administration in the United States — believing that it has been incompetent at best and more concerned with providing cover for the Chinese Communist Party than saving lives at worst.
                          Former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus of having been “bought” by China, while President Donald Trump said the UN agency was “literally a pipe organ” for its communist regime.
                          Tedros, a Marxist politician from Ethiopia, has said criticism of him is rooted in racism and an insult to Africa and “the black community”, and blamed Taiwan — which warned the WHO about the coronavirus in December 2019 to no avail — for much of it.

                          ...back in the real world.


                          Despite supply issues, Canada 'doing pretty good' on vaccine roll out: professor


                          Geography, split in responsibilities are causing hiccups, says Dr. Noni MacDonald


                          If Dr. Noni MacDonald were to grade the federal government on its COVID-19 vaccine rollout so far, she would offer a "solid B, if not a B-plus."

                          "Given what we have to deal with ... our provincial/territorial responsibility for health [and] our relatively small population for our huge geography, I think we're doing pretty good," said MacDonald.

                          She is the pediatrics professor at Dalhousie University's School of Medicine and a founding member of the World Health Organization's global advisory committee on vaccine safety.

                          With vaccine shipments from both Pfizer and Moderna delayed in recent weeks, the Trudeau government has faced criticism for its procurement and distribution process.

                          Pfizer didn't ship vaccine vials to Canada this past week, citing delays as it retools production of its COVID-19 vaccine in Belgium. Moderna announced Friday it expects to ship 20 to 25 per cent less product than scheduled through the month of February. European countries have also faced delays receiving vaccines from both companies.

                          Just over 950,000 doses have been administered across Canada as of Jan. 30., according to CBC's vaccine tracker.

                          Delays and a short supply of COVID-19 vaccines, MacDonald says, only tell part of the story of why Canada lags behind other countries.


                          Israel and the United Kingdom, which top the global list of vaccine doses given, are a fraction of the size and more densely populated, making it easier to deliver and administer shots, MacDonald argues.

                          Provincial and territorial responsibility for health care requiring each jurisdiction to develop its own plan, as well as the lack of a national patient data system to track those who have received the shot or are most at risk, are also responsible for some of the hiccups.
                          "The plan that's going to work in P.E.I. is not going to work in Ontario," said MacDonald, adding that both Israel and the U.K. have one integrated health system responsible for their campaigns.


                          On par with France, Germany

                          MacDonald believes that compared to other countries and jurisdictions, Canada has made smart decisions in its vaccine rollout, particularly when it comes to assessing who is eligible.

                          Provinces and territories have prioritized those most at risk to be among the first vaccinated, typically focusing on age, occupation and health status.

                          And despite the country's vast geography, Canada is on par with smaller countries like Germany, Sweden and France. "You'd think they'd be doing better than we are," MacDonald said.

                          Going forward, the Dalhousie professor believes that the COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the need to close some gaps when it comes to who oversees health care.

                          "I actually think this has shown us how important public health and immunization are to the well-being of our country," she said.

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                          • Tricky
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                            #5218
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            Britain should tell WHO that they, Britain, consider all of their citizens to be in "at-risk" groups. You would think that there would be countries in the EU capable of developing and producing vaccines.
                            Our Prime Minister announced that he would provide the vaccine to any resident that wants it, although at the moment it's the elderly who are getting it.

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                            • Tricky
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                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              Britain should tell WHO that they, Britain, consider all of their citizens to be in "at-risk" groups. You would think that there would be countries in the EU capable of developing and producing vaccines.
                              The EU has screwed up on this one big time.

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #5220
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                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                ...back in the real world.


                                Despite supply issues, Canada 'doing pretty good' on vaccine roll out: professor


                                Geography, split in responsibilities are causing hiccups, says Dr. Noni MacDonald


                                If Dr. Noni MacDonald were to grade the federal government on its COVID-19 vaccine rollout so far, she would offer a "solid B, if not a B-plus."

                                "Given what we have to deal with ... our provincial/territorial responsibility for health [and] our relatively small population for our huge geography, I think we're doing pretty good," said MacDonald.

                                She is the pediatrics professor at Dalhousie University's School of Medicine and a founding member of the World Health Organization's global advisory committee on vaccine safety.

                                With vaccine shipments from both Pfizer and Moderna delayed in recent weeks, the Trudeau government has faced criticism for its procurement and distribution process.

                                Pfizer didn't ship vaccine vials to Canada this past week, citing delays as it retools production of its COVID-19 vaccine in Belgium. Moderna announced Friday it expects to ship 20 to 25 per cent less product than scheduled through the month of February. European countries have also faced delays receiving vaccines from both companies.

                                Just over 950,000 doses have been administered across Canada as of Jan. 30., according to CBC's vaccine tracker.

                                Delays and a short supply of COVID-19 vaccines, MacDonald says, only tell part of the story of why Canada lags behind other countries.


                                Israel and the United Kingdom, which top the global list of vaccine doses given, are a fraction of the size and more densely populated, making it easier to deliver and administer shots, MacDonald argues.

                                Provincial and territorial responsibility for health care requiring each jurisdiction to develop its own plan, as well as the lack of a national patient data system to track those who have received the shot or are most at risk, are also responsible for some of the hiccups.
                                "The plan that's going to work in P.E.I. is not going to work in Ontario," said MacDonald, adding that both Israel and the U.K. have one integrated health system responsible for their campaigns.


                                On par with France, Germany

                                MacDonald believes that compared to other countries and jurisdictions, Canada has made smart decisions in its vaccine rollout, particularly when it comes to assessing who is eligible.

                                Provinces and territories have prioritized those most at risk to be among the first vaccinated, typically focusing on age, occupation and health status.

                                And despite the country's vast geography, Canada is on par with smaller countries like Germany, Sweden and France. "You'd think they'd be doing better than we are," MacDonald said.

                                Going forward, the Dalhousie professor believes that the COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the need to close some gaps when it comes to who oversees health care.

                                "I actually think this has shown us how important public health and immunization are to the well-being of our country," she said.

                                Back in the real world I remember you and I having a conversation in which you told me that Canada would have no supply issues. And I told you that you would because despite Canada's "contracts" with other countries that you would end up getting the short end of the stick. And you did.

                                Canada claims to have one of the world's best healthcare systems but is playing catch-up to produce their own vaccine that's about a year away. That wouldn't be cool with me if I lived in Canada. I might even question my leaders. You're whistling past the graveyard.




                                As Canada awaits vaccine doses, relying on other countries is the wrong approach: U.K. expert



                                TORONTO -- Countries like Canada that are waiting for vaccine shipments amid an international shortage could have done more in the early days of the pandemic to boost their own domestic production capacity, according to a leading vaccine expert from the United Kingdom.

                                Oxford University Regius professor of medicine Sir John Bell was responsible for overseeing the development of the Astrazeneca-Oxford COVID-19 vaccine, which is approved in the U.K. but not yet in Canada. He said the U.K. went to great lengths to scale up its production in early 2020 as vaccine trials began.

                                “We started from nothing, and we're now pretty pleased that we're in pretty good shape. Lots of other countries decided that they would rely on others, and that perhaps has not proved to be the right strategy,” Bell told CTV’s Question Period in an exclusive interview with Evan Solomon airing Sunday.



                                Canada received zero new shipments of vaccines earlier this week due to a production delay from Pfizer, which is making adjustments to its factory in Belgium. At the same time, federal officials are in talks with Pfizer over whether a vial can supply five or six vaccines — a difference that has raised questions about whether Canada will lag behind its goal to vaccine 3 million Canadians by the end of March.

                                But the U.K. and the U.S. have not seen the same slowdown because they have a larger production capacity.

                                Bell, who is Canadian, said Canada should think of vaccines as a health security issue and suggested that Canada is “overly dependent” on the U.S.

                                “Although the current administration in the U.S., I think will be more sympathetic — the previous administration was not going to give you a leg up on any of this stuff. So you know you do have to be independent and autonomous in these health security issues,” he said.
                                The federal government has invested more than $126 million to build a new biomanufacturing facility in Montreal to help produce vaccine candidates for emergency use. The site remains under construction and is expected to be ready by July.

                                Another facility in Montreal is being upgraded to help produce vaccines, but it also remains under construction. The government says that, based on a “conservative approach,” the facility could produce 250,000 doses per month depending on the vaccine's specifications.

                                The U.K. was able to increase its vaccine manufacturing capabilities from “very close to zero” in a matter of 10 months, Bell said. The strategy was to repurpose existing manufacturing facilities elsewhere in the country to suit vaccine production.

                                "They repurposed those, they transferred the technology to them, they learned how to scale up, they went through all the hard yards it takes to become a manufacturing facility,” he said.

                                Asked if Canada missed an opportunity in the early days of the pandemic, Bell said: “I’m not going to get into a discussion about whether you guys did the right thing or the wrong thing. The reality is you don't have enough vaccine, you know you need to get on with it.”

                                One way to speed up vaccine distribution would be to approve more vaccines. Bell pointed to the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine, which is still under review by Health Canada, as one possibility.
                                “That will increase your numbers pretty dramatically,” he said.

                                Health Canada revealed Friday that it is on track to approve the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine by mid-February and suggested that a fourth vaccine approval may not be far behind.

                                Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole said Canada’s rollout strategy has been held up by the fact that the government did not go far enough in its efforts to produce vaccines in Canada.

                                “Last March, April when we saw countries hoarding PPE, medical supplies, planes not leaving tarmacs — did they think it was going to be better with the vaccine?” O’Toole told CTV’s Question Period.


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