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  • slimslob
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    #11941
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    Do you know what trips me out? I'm being honest here. No bullshit.


    The liberals on this site have been consistently wrong on everything from masks to the vaxed not being able to spread covid. If I had been that wrong, I think I'd stop preaching to other folks about covid. But not them. They doubled down. It's crazy.
    They are followers of Joseph Goebbels. They just don't realize that "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." does not work when there are those ready to expose their lies. Then they just become fools.

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    • Copier Addict
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      #11942
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      Do you know what trips me out? I'm being honest here. No bullshit.


      The liberals on this site have been consistently wrong on everything from masks to the vaxed not being able to spread covid. If I had been that wrong, I think I'd stop preaching to other folks about covid. But not them. They doubled down. It's crazy.
      Oh dear!! Not those liberals again?
      Lol. It's time to find a new trick, pony.

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      • bsm2
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        #11943
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Do you know what trips me out? I'm being honest here. No bullshit.


        The liberals on this site have been consistently wrong on everything from masks to the vaxed not being able to spread covid. If I had been that wrong, I think I'd stop preaching to other folks about covid. But not them. They doubled down. It's crazy.

        Yet YOU got the Vaccine from the Biden Administration and Had to WEAR A MASK At Least Twice HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

        You must feel like a complete JACKASS and that's NO BullShit

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #11944
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy

          While it is easy to blame and throw stones at President Biden, the real work is being done by the highly competent and experienced medical professionals he has put into positions of authority not beholden to any political agenda.

          I read a lot of SSG's posts in other forums. He's a clown. Complete with the big red nose and shoes.


          He talks about the highly competent and experienced government. I'm reminded of what Reagan once said -

          “Most Terrifying Words – ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”


          I lived on the Gulf Coast when Katrina hit. FEMA was deployed to save lives. In reality, they fucked things up and let people die. Never depend on the government. SSG is a fool and should be treated as such.
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • bsm2
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            #11945
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            I read a lot of SSG's posts in other forums. He's a clown. Complete with the big red nose and shoes.


            He talks about the highly competent and experienced government. I'm reminded of what Reagan once said -

            “Most Terrifying Words – ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”


            I lived on the Gulf Coast when Katrina hit. FEMA was deployed to save lives. In reality, they fucked things up and let people die. Never depend on the government. SSG is a fool and should be treated as such.

            Did your return any of that Government stimulus money Free Cheese NOPE

            Did you know Mississippi sucks up all the Free Federal Government MONEY it can get

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            • Hansen88
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              #11946
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by bsm2
              Did your return any of that Government stimulus money Free Cheese NOPE

              Did you know Mississippi sucks up all the Free Federal Government MONEY it can get
              Why should anyone return stimulus money? It was ours to begin with,only for them to waste it,or it was Printed out of thin air.

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              • bsm2
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                #11947
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by Hansen88
                Why should anyone return stimulus money? It was ours to begin with,only for them to waste it,or it was Printed out of thin air.

                Glad YOU support the money from the Stimulus Bills Passed to help Americans

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #11948
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Here's the highly efficient and competent government that SSG brags about. It makes you wonder what planet he's been living on.



                  You may have read in the paper the other day that a division of Litton Industries and two of its former executives are accused of defrauding the government out of $6.3 million on military contracts.


                  Remember when we found out that the government paid $640 each for plastic toilet seats for military airplanes? Now that was something I could feel that I personally paid for. I pay a good deal more than $640 in taxes every year, and I probably paid for several of those toilet seats. That is a concrete contribution that I can be proud of.





                  Anyone who buys this paperback for $4.95 gets a $2,043 nut free.
                  The nut is glued to the inside of the back cover, in the upper right hand corner, and fits in a hole in the pages, so it goes through to the front.


                  The book also lists a claw hammer sold by Gould Simulation Systems to the Navy for $435. In the picture it looks like the kind you can buy at any hardware store for $10.


                  Other items offered in the catalogue include a $285 screwdriver, a $7,622 coffee maker, a $387 flat washer, a $469 wrench, a $214 flashlight, a $437 tape measure, a $2,228 monkey wrench, a $748 pair of duckbill pliers, a $74,165 aluminum ladder, a $659 ashtray and a $240- million airplane.
                  Pentagon Products may be a fictional company, but these prices are not. They are documented.



                  The success of Pentagon Products is based on simple principles, the authors say: no dog-eat-dog competitive bidding, no endless nit-picking over contracts, no pushy meddling in the bidding process, no penny-pinching bulk purchases, no unfair limits on corporate claims of proprietary rights, no settling for off-the-shelf products just to save a buck.

                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    #11949
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Another job well done by the federal government. I had the pleasure of personally experiencing this one.




                    Hurricane Katrina: Remembering the Federal Failures



                    Ten years ago this week, Hurricane Katrina made landfall on the Gulf Coast and generated a huge disaster. The storm flooded New Orleans, killed more than 1,800 people, and caused $100 billion in property damage. The storm’s damage was greatly exacerbated by the failures of Congress, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and the Army Corps of Engineers.




                    Weather forecasters warned government officials about Katrina’s approach, so they should have been ready for it. But they were not, and Katrina exposed major failures in America’s disaster preparedness and response systems.




                    Here are some of the federal failures:
                    Confusion. Key federal officials were not proactive, they gave faulty information to the public, and they were not adequately trained. The 2006 bipartisan House report on the disaster, A Failure of Initiative, said, “federal agencies … had varying degrees of unfamiliarity with their roles and responsibilities under the National Response Plan and National Incident Management System.” The report found that there was “general confusion over mission assignments, deployments, and command structure.” One reason was that FEMA’s executive suites were full of political appointees with little disaster experience.
                    Failure to Learn. The government was unprepared for Katrina even though it was widely known that such a hurricane was probable, and weather forecasters had accurately predicted the advance of Katrina before landfall. A year prior to Katrina, government agencies had performed a simulation exercise—“Hurricane Pam”—for a hurricane of similar strength hitting New Orleans, but governments “failed to learn important lessons” from the exercise.
                    Communications Breakdown. The House report found that there was “a complete breakdown in communications that paralyzed command and control and made situational awareness murky at best.” Agencies could not communicate with each other due to equipment failures and a lack of system interoperability. These problems occurred despite the fact that FEMA and predecessor agencies have been giving grants to state and local governments for emergency communication systems since the beginning of the Cold War.


                    Supply Failures. Some emergency supplies were prepositioned before the storm, but there was nowhere near enough. In places that desperately needed help, such as the New Orleans Superdome, it took days to deliver medical supplies. FEMA also wasted huge amounts of supplies. It delivered millions of pounds of ice to holding centers in cities far away from the Gulf Coast. FEMA sent truckers carrying ice on wild goose chases across the country. Two years after the storm, the agency ended up throwing out $100 million of unused ice. FEMA also paid for 25,000 mobile homes costing $900 million, but they went virtually unused because of FEMA’s own regulations that such homes cannot be used on flood plains, which is where most Katrina victims lived.
                    Indecision. Indecision plagued government leaders in the deployment of supplies, in medical personnel decisions, and in other areas. Even the grisly task of body recovery after Katrina was slow and confused. Bodies went uncollected for days “as state and federal officials remained indecisive on a body recovery plan.” FEMA waited for Louisiana to make decisions about bodies, but the governor of Louisiana blamed FEMA’s tardiness in making a deal with a contractor. Similar problems of too many bureaucratic cooks in the kitchen hampered decisionmaking in areas, such as organizing evacuations and providing law enforcement resources to Louisiana.


                    Fraud and Abuse. Free‐​flowing Katrina aid unleased a torrent of fraud and abuse. Federal auditors estimated that $1 billion or more in aid payments for individuals were invalid. Other estimates put the waste at $2 billion. An Associated Press analysis found that “people claiming to live in as many as 162,750 homes that did not exist before the storms may have improperly received as much as $1 billion in tax money.” The New York Times concluded: “Among the many superlatives associated with Hurricane Katrina can now be added this one: it produced one of the most extraordinary displays of scams, schemes and stupefying bureaucratic bungles in modern history, costing taxpayers up to $2 billion.”


                    Perhaps the most appalling aspect of the federal response to Katrina was that officials obstructed private relief efforts, as these examples illustrate:
                    FEMA repeatedly blocked the delivery of emergency supplies ordered by the Methodist Hospital in New Orleans from its out‐​of‐​state headquarters.
                    FEMA turned away doctors volunteering their services at emergency facilities. Methodist’s sister hospital, Chalmette, for example, sent doctors to the emergency facility set up at New Orleans Airport to offer their services, but they were turned away because their names were not in a government database.


                    Private medical air transport companies played an important role in evacuations after Katrina. But FEMA officials provided no help in coordinating these services, and they actively blocked some of the flights.


                    FEMA “refused Amtrak’s offer to evacuate victims, and wouldn’t return calls from the American Bus Association.” Indeed, both the Motorcoach Association and the American Bus Association could not get through to anyone at FEMA to offer help for evacuations.


                    The Red Cross was denied access to the Superdome in New Orleans to deliver emergency supplies.


                    FEMA turned away trucks from Walmart loaded with water for New Orleans, and it prevented the Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel.


                    Offers of emergency supplies, vehicles, and specialized equipment from other nations were caught in federal red tape and shipments were delayed.
                    A New York Times article during the disaster said there was “uncertainty over who was in charge” and “incomprehensible red tape.” Katrina made clear that the government’s emergency response system is far too complex. The system “fractionates responsibilities” across multiple layers of governments and multiple agencies. There are 29 different federal agencies that have a role in disaster relief under the National Response Framework. These agencies are involved in 15 different cross‐​agency “Emergency Support Functions.” There is also a National Incident Management System, a National Disaster Recovery Framework, and numerous other “national” structures that are supposed to coordinate action.




                    But such centralization is giant mistake—you don’t get efficiency, learning, innovation, and quality performance from top‐​down command. Indeed, increased centralization and complexity is a disease of modern American government that is causing endemic failure. I discuss this problem in my new study, Why the Federal Government Fails.

                    It should be common knowledge that the federal government sucks at doing big things. It hasn't always been that way. The problem is that the federal government has grown too big. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

                    Liberals are so in love with the government that they can't bring themselves to look at the facts. In fact, they want to grow government bigger!!
                    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #11950
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Another job well done by the federal government. I had the pleasure of personally experiencing this one.





                      It should be common knowledge that the federal government sucks at doing big things. It hasn't always been that way. The problem is that the federal government has grown too big. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

                      Liberals are so in love with the government that they can't bring themselves to look at the facts. In fact, they want to grow government bigger!!
                      Odd you failed to whine and moan about the Last 4 years with a 2 trillion tax cut for the RICH.

                      Life really Sucks for YOU

                      Mr Doom and Gloom

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #11951
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Odd you failed to whine and moan about the Last 4 years with a 2 trillion tax cut for the RICH.

                        Great News Canada apparently runs better

                        N
                        Mr Doom and Gloom

                        You think Canada runs better? This is the same Canada that can't produce a covid vaccine and Trudeau was on bent knee begging?
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • bsm2
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                          #11952
                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          You think Canada runs better? This is the same Canada that can't produce a covid vaccine and Trudeau was on bent knee begging?
                          PS this is the Corona Virus thread not your personal Bitch and Moan Karen

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #11953
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by bsm2
                            PS this is the Corona Virus thread not your personal Bitch and Moan Karen

                            Are you the same guy who bitches about Trump in every thread and has done so for the last 5 years? Follow your own advice.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #11954
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Are you the same guy who bitches about Trump in every thread and has done so for the last 5 years? Follow your own advice.
                              HAHAHAHAHAHAJAAHA

                              Enjoy your day and Mask Up

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                              • bsm2
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                                #11955
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                Last week, Judge Stephen Friot from the Western District of Oklahoma denied Stitt's request for an injunction with a ruling that said Defense Department regulations "leave no doubt that the department's vaccination protocols must, and do, apply as fully to the statutory reserve components (including the Guard) as to the active-duty forces."

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