Which was the BEST copier ever?

[slybot]

Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

I see the Canon 9800 in here a couple of times, but lets face it the 9800 is a glorified 8530 with a big empty box on the side that held a few reams of paper. The 8530 is pretty much a fast 6650, now the NP6650, that was a machine that ran like crazy. As far a small machines the Mita 111 did the job better than most with fewer problems, just the ocassional cleaning. But after that Mita kinda stuck their foot up their rear and took what didn't work from the last model and added it to the next gen until they had a machine that needed constant cleaning, always jammed and had bad CQ. How about a Mita 1205 with a document feeder? LOL what a waste and hope it never needed work done on it.

ah... the 8530...........that was a beast; loved the double sorter concept... the mita dc 111 were quite a good machine can't argue that.. the dc1205/1255 were ok but never had one with a doc feeder thank god by the sound of it

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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was the dc1205 the one that had the moving platen with a doc feeder on it?

[msmy]

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vote for AF1075....AF1027....AF2027....

[bauer]

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I've seen the Toshiba 6530c machines. Aren't they made by Kyocera Mita?

Toshiba e-STUDIO6530cT Status: Current

Manufacturing Status: New Console, Full-color copier, MF Dry, dual component toner

Dataquest Segment: 5 SRP/Street Price: $32,999/None Domestic Intro Date: October 2008 OEM: Toshiba (China) Also Sold As: Copystar CS 750c; Kyocera TASKalfa 750c Distribution: Dealers and subsidiaries Max Monthly Duty Cycle: 275,000 impressions

[Mooseface2r]

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i only know what I know but I'd say from what I've seen id say km3050's and Konica / Olivetti c220 mf220

[Zookeyman]

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[QUOTE=10871087;1693]We have all voted for the worst copier ever, why dont we switch it up with:

What was the BEST COPIER EVER MADE?

My younger brother. He can copy ANYTHING!!!!!! :}

[Venom]

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was the dc1205 the one that had the moving platen with a doc feeder on it?

No the DC1705 was the one that had moving platen and doc feeder...the 1205 was stationary top but did offer a doc feed that sucked...the rollers that contacted platen glass were sponge and skew was adjusted by doc feed height...never worked right.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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So back around Thanksgiving time, my theoretical brother-in-law had nothing better to do than to "invite" himself over for a very long stay at my house and bug the hell out of me...

...so being very annoyed, bored, and looking for an escape, I retreated to my private office and started going through every single post in this thread...

...I decided to put all the information in a spreadsheet to create an easy to see analysis by brand and by model number of the "best copiers ever." The results of which are attached.

A few ground rules apply: I only used model letters and numbers, so no words like Aficio or Imagerunner. I didn't include any spaces or hyphens to get a more accurate count. If a brand was by itself prior to a merger or bankruptcy, I used that, e.g., Olivetti, and Mita instead of Kyocera Mita; although some pure Mita machines may be in with Kyocera Mita, and so on. Finally for a vote to count it had to be very clear that the poster of the message was in favor of the machine. So if someone said I like the Canon IR3300 and the next poster says me too but didn't mention it by make or model, it still got two votes because it was obvious.


best copier ever brand analysis.pdf

best copier ever model analysis.pdf


Maybe this next holiday season I'll retreat to my office and do one for the worst copier ever!

[Copier Whisperer]

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FYI, VQCIII is a 3M e-stat copier. Awesome spreadsheet work. Thanks!

RE: Theoretical Brother-In-Law: Ask him to help you clean out the garage or attic; or some other mundane task. He will suddenly remember another appointment he needs to attend.

CopierWhisperer.

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

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Thanks for the info.

I was thinking about having him do some painting but I figured knowing my luck he'd probably like it and want to stick around longer...of course at least I wouldn't have to paint then.

My short term solution has typically been to get him a cheap case of beer. Since he's usually slightly intoxicated by the time he arrives; one case and a few hours and eventually he passes out...I don't usually encourage these kinds of things...mind you, but hey.

FYI, VQCIII is a 3M e-stat copier. Awesome spreadsheet work. Thanks!

RE: Theoretical Brother-In-Law: Ask him to help you clean out the garage or attic; or some other mundane task. He will suddenly remember another appointment he needs to attend.

CopierWhisperer.

[rjh0566]

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Pro C900?...sarcasim

mp161...for a small machine
af1022 / af1027...bullet proof

anyone old enough to remember the VQC III?

Almost forgot the 3M 516...now that thing was incredible. Had one until about 5 years ago when I ran out of that dang sponge roller.

same as theToshiba bd-3301 I remember it well, also common was the dirt these inhaled. otherwise they were great.

[rjh0566]

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I know Ricoh,Sharp, and Toshiba,been doing this since 84. The high volume Sharp mxm850-1100 are the best. We have one with 14 mil on one and still runs like a clock, stretch the pms and get over 1 mil out of the drums. The high voume ricoh mp1350 (18 mil.) I like as well but this customer has the gbc option which tapers reliablity quite a bit. any gbc pro's out there I would like to hear from you! Toshiba was hard to beat with their last analog stuff in the 90s.

[Shadow1]

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Toshiba was impossible to beat in the 90's. Worked for Lanier starting in the late 90's and both their 6540 and 6735 were tanks - couldn't kill one. Don't know what that translates to in Toshiba numbers, but we'd still have some running if we could still get parts.

The 73 series machines weren't so good though (again, don't know Toshiba numbers, but last generation before digital) How many fuser drive belts did you spend an hour replacing in the 45ppm?

And then the digital revolution... Toshiba was late to market with digital, they were feature poor, pitiful user interface, and had more than their fair share of problems. We went with Ricoh, which also had their share of problems at first, but the users liked them a lot better.

[MobileTechy]

Re: Which was the BEST copier ever?

We have all voted for the worst copier ever, why dont we switch it up with:

What was the BEST COPIER EVER MADE?


I cast my vote for the Kyocera 2530, 3530, 4040, 3035, and 4035. You can\'t kill them things. And, the print systems actually work!

i vote goes to .. mita, kyocera always tech friendly

[blackdog]

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30 odd years in the trade, haven't found yet..................