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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #1066
    Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

    Originally posted by slimslob
    You must mean the freeloading welfare recipients. They are the only one not paying taxes. The top 1% actually pay more than anyone else.


    Believe it or Not The Richest Americans Pay Most of the Federal Bills

    Our tax system poses a greater risk than Russia. Allow me to explain.


    A large percentage of the country pays nothing in taxes or very little. Democrats then convince them that the reason they're not successful is because the rich aren't paying enough taxes. That eventually leads to the USA having one of the highest tax brackets in the world to do buisness.


    We're heading down a very dangerous (Marxist) road.
    Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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    • bsm2
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      #1067
      Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      Our tax system poses a greater risk than Russia. Allow me to explain.


      A large percentage of the country pays nothing in taxes or very little. Democrats then convince them that the reason they're not successful is because the rich aren't paying enough taxes. That eventually leads to the USA having one of the highest tax brackets in the world to do buisness.


      We're heading down a very dangerous (Marxist) road.
      FALSE
      That eventually leads to the USA having one of the highest tax brackets in the world to do buisness.

      Your state Mississippi is a donor state and collects Millions of dollars in Federal just to operate

      BTW its spelled Business
      Last edited by bsm2; 10-07-2022, 03:25 AM.

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      • bsm2
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        #1068
        Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

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        • BBM
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          #1069
          Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

          Please enlighten us what FAIR SHARE is ? surely you must include EVERYONE paying into the system .

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          • Copier Addict
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            #1070
            Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

            Originally posted by BBM
            Please enlighten us what FAIR SHARE is ? surely you must include EVERYONE paying into the system .
            It's an excerpt from the article. You will have to ask the author.

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            • slimslob
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              Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

              Originally posted by copier addict
              It's an excerpt from the article. You will have to ask the author.
              No it is not. Not it is something you liberals have been saying for decades. Every time you want to raise taxes on the rich but end up raising taxes on everyone, killing jobs and causing inflation.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                Originally posted by copier addict
                It's an excerpt from the article. You will have to ask the author.

                More BS that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.


                When democrats say "fair", what they mean is that business owners are gonna take a bath in order for liberals to give another handout.

                Equity = fair. Fair is a subjective word. copier addict and DLP have yet to grasp that concept as to the context of the word "equity" when a democrat uses it.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • davidmtupper
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                  #1073
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                  The only fair income tax would be a flat tax, no brackets. I might see exempting income up to the poverty line but nothing other than that. Better still would be to ditch the income tax and the 16th amendment that allows it (replace it with a balanced budget amendment like all states have) and go with a national sales tax of around 10%, exempting food only. That way everybody has skin in the game, you buy a $5 game, you get taxed, you buy a $50 million, yacht you get taxed. No, I'm not talking about a VAT, like England uses, that get stupid real quick and passed on to the end user any way, just an end user sales tax.

                  If you talk about talking businesses you are really talking about taxing their customers because businesses just raise costs to cover increased taxes, always have, always will, it's part of doing business.

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                  • D_L_P
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                    #1074
                    Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    You must mean the freeloading welfare recipients. They are the only one not paying taxes. The top 1% actually pay more than anyone else.


                    Believe it or Not The Richest Americans Pay Most of the Federal Bills
                    Current unemployment is 3.5%. So you're complaining about only 3.5% of the population getting welfare, or calling people with low paying jobs freeloaders.

                    Biden voting counties account for 70% of the economy. If anything we should be concerned about actual freeloaders: Republicans.

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                    • D_L_P
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                      #1075
                      Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      More BS that adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.


                      When democrats say "fair", what they mean is that business owners are gonna take a bath in order for liberals to give another handout.

                      Equity = fair. Fair is a subjective word. copier addict and DLP have yet to grasp that concept as to the context of the word "equity" when a democrat uses it.
                      Still fighting with that dictionary?

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                      • slimslob
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                        #1076
                        Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                        Originally posted by davidmtupper
                        The only fair income tax would be a flat tax, no brackets. I might see exempting income up to the poverty line but nothing other than that. Better still would be to ditch the income tax and the 16th amendment that allows it (replace it with a balanced budget amendment like all states have) and go with a national sales tax of around 10%, exempting food only. That way everybody has skin in the game, you buy a $5 game, you get taxed, you buy a $50 million, yacht you get taxed. No, I'm not talking about a VAT, like England uses, that get stupid real quick and passed on to the end user any way, just an end user sales tax.

                        If you talk about talking businesses you are really talking about taxing their customers because businesses just raise costs to cover increased taxes, always have, always will, it's part of doing business.
                        Or something like Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan during the 2012 Republican primaries? What is Herman Cain'''s 9-9-9 plan? - Los Angeles Times

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Originally posted by D_L_P
                          Still fighting with that dictionary?
                          Au Contraire Mon Frere. (Google the meaning)
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                            Originally posted by davidmtupper
                            The only fair income tax would be a flat tax, no brackets. I might see exempting income up to the poverty line but nothing other than that. Better still would be to ditch the income tax and the 16th amendment that allows it (replace it with a balanced budget amendment like all states have) and go with a national sales tax of around 10%, exempting food only. That way everybody has skin in the game, you buy a $5 game, you get taxed, you buy a $50 million, yacht you get taxed. No, I'm not talking about a VAT, like England uses, that get stupid real quick and passed on to the end user any way, just an end user sales tax.

                            If you talk about talking businesses you are really talking about taxing their customers because businesses just raise costs to cover increased taxes, always have, always will, it's part of doing business.

                            No, you don't understand. You keep using the word "fair". Democrats have hijacked that word and tried to make it their own. And if anyone disagrees they are a racist and communist.
                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • slimslob
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                              Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              No, you don't understand. You keep using the word "fair". Democrats have hijacked that word and tried to make it their own. And if anyone disagrees they are a racist and communist.
                              Billy, Democrats do not call others Communists, they are Communists.

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                              • davidmtupper
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                                #1080
                                Re: $5.00 per gallon gas

                                Originally posted by slimslob
                                Or something like Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan during the 2012 Republican primaries? What is Herman Cain'''s 9-9-9 plan? - Los Angeles Times

                                The problem comes back to taxing businesses, as I stated they don't pay the tax but merely pass it on to their customers. The balanced budget amendment, repealing the 16th and instituting a national sales tax will get around that, get around any form of income sheltering and force everyone to have some skin in the game, and force the federal government to live on a budget. The sales tax rate would have to be fixed in the same amendment that allows it and repeals the 16th to prevent it from constantly being increased, but I think most people, and therefore the states they live in would get behind that, so even if the house and senate don't want to move on the idea an Article 5 convention could get it done without them.

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