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  • HenryT2
    Senior Tech

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    • Apr 2010
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    #61
    Re: Your fat sugary ass!

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
    I googled "highest us obesity rate" and got multiple hits, all of which seem to point towards Mississippi as the most obese state in the USA.

    Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Top 10 Fat States: Where Obesity Rates Are Highest - US News and World Report

    Coloradans Least Obese, West Virginians Most for Third Year

    .. this one ranks Mississippi as #2.

    Fat and getting fatter: U.S. obesity rates to soar by 2030 | Reuters

    "Fat and getting fatter: U.S. obesity rates to soar by 2030"
    WELL ... There you have it !!!
    If Mr. Google said it ... then it absolutely , positively , has to be true .....


    Now we know where he gets all his data ....
    "The Serenity Prayer" . . .
    God grant me the serenity to accept stupid people , the courage to not waste my time and energy on them , and the wisdom to know that I cannot fix STUPID .

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    • Iowatech
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      2,500+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 3930

      #62
      Re: Your fat sugary ass!

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      I googled "highest us obesity rate" and got multiple hits, all of which seem to point towards Mississippi as the most obese state in the USA.

      Obesity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Top 10 Fat States: Where Obesity Rates Are Highest - US News and World Report

      Coloradans Least Obese, West Virginians Most for Third Year

      .. this one ranks Mississippi as #2.

      Fat and getting fatter: U.S. obesity rates to soar by 2030 | Reuters

      "Fat and getting fatter: U.S. obesity rates to soar by 2030


      Obesity raises the risk of numerous diseases, from type 2 diabetes to endometrial cancer, meaning more sick people and higher medical costs in the future, the report said.


      It projects as many as 7.9 million new cases of diabetes a year, compared with 1.9 million new cases in recent years. There could also be 6.8 million new cases of chronic heart disease and stroke every year, compared with 1.3 million new cases a year now.
      The increasing burden of illness will go right to the bottom line, adding $66 billion in annual obesity-related medical costs over and above today's $147 billion to $210 billion. Total U.S. healthcare spending is estimated at $2.7 trillion."
      Neat links, still where's the science? The information on those links are estimates, that's not science. Any dummy could make estimates after all.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        • Dec 2009
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        #63
        Re: Your fat sugary ass!

        Please provide contrary evidence to prove what some public journals who care about their reputation say to be statistically true.

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        • Shadow1
          Service Manager

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          • Sep 2008
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          #64
          Re: Your fat sugary ass!

          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
          Please provide contrary evidence to prove what some public journals who care about their reputation say to be statistically true.
          Please provide evidence to disprove what you've only shown to be a statistical possibility (and we all know how that works)

          People of intelligence will recognize that for what it is: A straw man argument.

          You pose some unprovable nonsense, and tweak the numbers until the theory appears that it might be plausible. Then with "facts" in hand you challenge me to disprove the theory. Since there is no empirical evidence to be had, nor the possibility designing a truly scientific study, you can point to the lack of a solid argument against your theory, which then becomes "fact."

          Male Bovine Organic Fertilizer.

          Let's try this the other way around - Question 1: Is it any of your business?

          Answer: No. Statistically I can prove it - You don't live anywhere near the city in question, therefore you're not part of the statistics.

          Now, if you want to say sugar is not the most healthy part of a person's diet and we should limit our intake, that's fine, but when you start saying it's the government's business to run our lives you're liable to get shot. Ref: Gun Control.
          73 DE W5SSJ

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            #65
            Re: Your fat sugary ass!

            Well respected US healthcare professionals are saying, in essence, that the US gov't can no longer provide affordable healthcare to millions of overweight citizens. The current trend indicates that by 2030 the US healthcare system will financially collapse for all citizens unless societal changes are made to caloric intake.

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            • fixthecopier
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              • Apr 2008
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              #66
              Re: Your fat sugary ass!

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              Well respected US healthcare professionals are saying, in essence, that the US gov't can no longer provide affordable healthcare to millions of overweight citizens. The current trend indicates that by 2030 the US healthcare system will financially collapse for all citizens unless societal changes are made to caloric intake.

              We should sell insurance by the pound. If it the right of every free American to be big and fat, then based on another thread I started about insurance, I am sure most of the free Americans here who support the insurance companies right to make a big profit, would not have a problem paying a lot more for health care when they fail to keep their weight down. After all there is nothing fair about someone having to pay the same rate as another who is 100 pounds overweight.
              The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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              • Shadow1
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                #67
                Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                Well respected US healthcare professionals are saying, in essence, that the US gov't can no longer provide affordable healthcare to...
                The government has no business meddling in healthcare to begin with. We are not a socialist country - we are the prime example of capitalism. Not a perfect system, but it made us (at one time) the greatest society ever to exist on the face of the Earth - the farther we get away from those ideals the lower we sink.
                73 DE W5SSJ

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                • Iowatech
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                  • Dec 2009
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                  #68
                  Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                  Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                  Please provide contrary evidence to prove what some public journals who care about their reputation say to be statistically true.
                  Statistics are a fine indicator that real science needs to be done. But in and of themselves, statistics are not real science.

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                  • Shadow1
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                    #69
                    Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                    Originally posted by Iowatech
                    Statistics are a fine indicator that real science needs to be done. But in and of themselves, statistics are not real science.
                    87.2% of statistics are made up on the spot!
                    73 DE W5SSJ

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                    • ZOOTECH
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                      #70
                      Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                      Originally posted by Shadow1
                      87.2% of statistics are made up on the spot!
                      He said with "tongue in cheek".
                      "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                      • mojorolla
                        The Wolf

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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #71
                        Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                        One more thing...no one calls it "cola" in the US unless your are Michael Bloomberg.
                        Up North, it is "pop", while down South they tend to use "coke". The west coast calls it "soda".
                        The elderly refer to it as "soda pop"; go figure.

                        America-It's a melting pot!
                        cola map.jpg


                        Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                        • nmfaxman
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                          #72
                          Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                          Statistics only show what the researcher is looking for and how they interpret the data.
                          How many times have they changed their minds about alcohol and coffee?

                          Just because one gets their jolly's working out, doesn't mean everyone should be the same way.
                          What if everyone started working out and stopped smoking?
                          Answer: The government would start taxing where they can make money.

                          You mind your business and I will mind mine.
                          You abuse the steroids and all that fat-burner crap all you want.
                          I will stick to what gives me my jolly's with the sugar, carbs, beer, smoke and suffer my age in my own way.

                          I didn't start a post about health nuts pushing us to live the way they do.


                          Nuff said!
                          Why do they call it common sense?

                          If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                          • fixthecopier
                            ALIEN OVERLORD

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                            #73
                            Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                            Originally posted by Shadow1
                            The government has no business meddling in healthcare to begin with. We are not a socialist country - we are the prime example of capitalism. Not a perfect system, but it made us (at one time) the greatest society ever to exist on the face of the Earth - the farther we get away from those ideals the lower we sink.
                            Should all drugs be legal because the government has no business telling us what we can do with our bodies? If they are legal, the cost goes down and the crime associated with them go way down, then they just become a health issue, like alcohol and tobacco.
                            The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                            • Iowatech
                              Not a service manager

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                              #74
                              Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                              Originally posted by fixthecopier
                              Should all drugs be legal because the government has no business telling us what we can do with our bodies? If they are legal, the cost goes down and the crime associated with them go way down, then they just become a health issue, like alcohol and tobacco.
                              The trick is that a successful free society needs to have some basis in morality, which means everybody using their innate ability to determine the difference between right and wrong. Otherwise you just have chaos rather than freedom, and that would just be stupid.

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                              • fixthecopier
                                ALIEN OVERLORD

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                                #75
                                Re: Your fat sugary ass!

                                Originally posted by Iowatech
                                The trick is that a successful free society needs to have some basis in morality, which means everybody using their innate ability to determine the difference between right and wrong. Otherwise you just have chaos rather than freedom, and that would just be stupid.
                                Please explain what you mean... and if you feel that things should stay the way they are, explain why alcohol and tobacco are more "moral" than other drugs. Your statement has no context.
                                The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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