Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[Old Copier Doctor]

I remember that machine. Looking at my left hand this morning I saw my NP200 (remember those?) scar ( from cleaning a corona---I think it was the transfer. A nice slice about a 1/2 inch long at the base of my little finger. Was that revenge from a machine that I hated? Oh, on the 2015 I was officially trained on it---I think they used videos in those days. I think the S model was fair, but if they hung a DF on it and made many copies it really turned out to be junk.

[Tricky]

I hear you brother. I do believe they worked very hard to make the IR2016 as close as possible to complete crap as well.

Is there an easy way to change the feed separation tyres??

In the workshop we take the developer out and tilt the machine on its side to get the tyres out.

On a Lexmark, think its a x940 the feed tyres are held in place with a screw! getting the front one out aint too bad but the rear is a job.

[vigour]

NP6060 NP4040
IRC3100 IRC6800 nasty nasty

[WOETC]

Is there an easy way to change the feed separation tyres??

In the workshop we take the developer out and tilt the machine on its side to get the tyres out.

On a Lexmark, think its a x940 the feed tyres are held in place with a screw! getting the front one out aint too bad but the rear is a job.

I find it just as easy to split the machine, once you've done it once it only takes about 10 times longer than any other feed tyre.

[jochenstacker]

my vote is for the canon irc3100/3170 - i used to believe that the worst mfd was the irc6800, but after 6 hours on a 3170 i change my mind....

if they could put a S1 internal finisher in a 3170 we could just lock this thread, because there couldn't possibly be anything worse than that.

Sorry, but have to disagree there.
After working on the 3100 for years I got used to it's crappyness, but nothing can beat the IRC6800 as the biggest heap of sh*te ever made.
It is huge, complex, prone to any kind of fault, difficult to work on, jams, dumps toner (for no reason, lol), has terrible image quality, is a terrible B&W copier, an even worse color copier, everything takes hours to do, the left deck WILL jam no matter what, this machine took 10 years of my life.
After working on a few of them, the 3100 was a holiday camp with a huge swimming pool by the sea with an endless supply of free cocktails.
Canon IRC6800, DON'T GO NEAR THEM!

[MStalkfleet]

Toshiba estudio 3511/4511. Techs hated working on it because to change the transfer drive belt you had to take the box almost down to the frame and there were multiple other issues.

[excanonguy]

Toshiba estudio 3511/4511. Techs hated working on it because to change the transfer drive belt you had to take the box almost down to the frame and there were multiple other issues.

Thank god we only have 1 left, being relatively new to the Toshiba line the other techs I work with are kind enough to do the calls on it!

[Tricky]

my vote is for the canon irc3100/3170 - i used to believe that the worst mfd was the irc6800, but after 6 hours on a 3170 i change my mind....

At least the image formation process is easy to watch if you remove a few panels and the devs are easy to check.

I find it just as easy to split the machine, once you've done it once it only takes about 10 times longer than any other feed tyre.

lol

[saxon]

Sharp SF-2060 in fact most Sharp analog machines and any MOPIER's Grrrrr... Hate them

[toner head]

Minolta 350. Toner yield supposed to be 2000 was more like 200. Customers and techs both hated them.

[mrwho]

I said it once and I'll say it again: bizhub 250/350!

I think NEC has some great products, but if they want to start making copier machines they'd better improve the software side of things a LOT!

Want an example? Check the solution at the end of the thread!.

[Akitu]

Lolwut? USB working by disabling DHCP? I think you might be onto something with that steaming POS.

[vincent64]

Sharp SF-2060 in fact most Sharp analog machines and any MOPIER's Grrrrr... Hate them

Now I like the old SD Sharps, 2060's,2260, they were alright, the 3062 with that finisher was a beast though, and the RDH, argh, but over all not bad machine, now the old SF 7800 bunch, now them were some POS.
But I have quickly learned, any mach you dont know too well gets to stinking real fast, even faster when you never seen it, and trying to figure out just how to get into it.

[ZOOTECH]

Now I like the old SD Sharps, 2060's,2260, they were alright, the 3062 with that finisher was a beast though, and the RDH, argh, but over all not bad machine, now the old SF 7800 bunch, now them were some POS.
But I have quickly learned, any mach you dont know too well gets to stinking real fast, even faster when you never seen it, and trying to figure out just how to get into it.

We still have some of those SDs still cranking away at 5-6+ million, and the 3062 RDH along with the 4085 were a nightmare.

[JVC]

As far as analog the Minolta 4320 was the worst when it first came out, although a few years later the ones left in my territory were the best machines I had.

Digital the 3511/4511 had to be the worst. I did get pretty good tearing it apart after a while.