Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

[Rich]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Surely Ricoh's MPC 6000/6501 (Venus C2/C3) range has to be in with a shout? Also known as the hoover killer- need I say more? Biggest POS they've EVER produced and I worked on the 5733 so that's saying something!

[dan7777]

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Minolta 650z. Some of you people were not born yet when I was working on them. A ton of modifications that took hours. Then of course the owner got a deal on a bunch of them that were new in box but had sat on shelf so long rollers were flat. Sent out a flyer saying you could save $5000 off new machine. He bought them for several hundred dollars each. Sold a bunch and were calls daily. In those days almost every set up had a problem that was not easy to fix. When it got to when you could set up a new machine with no problems I thought I had reached heaven!

[allan]

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Any RICOH copy printer.

[SkipL]

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Savin 840! Streaks & lines, streaks & lines - did I mention streaks and lines?

[twotech]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Minolta 3050/4050 when they first came out. After 50 different mods. the machines were not to bad.

The minolta 4230 was much worse. Every part of that machine had major problems.

[lenovos]

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All the mita 3 digit boxes were a pain but the worst ever was the Mita 513

Post edited by: spank6482, at: 2005/01/31 22:07

I remember the 513 and the 312re

[blackcat4866]

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I remember the 513 and the 312re

I think it was the DC-161 and DC-162re that if you got a paper jammed in the registration section, the only way to get it out was to scratch the shit out of the 40K yield drum. Yeah! That and cleaning charge coronas.

I remember billing a church customer for a new drum on a DC-131. The next day the enduser got a drum wrap. To get it out, she removed the primary and cleaning corona units, bend a nice loop of coathanger, and fished out all the little penny sized bits of paper. She (and I!!!) was so disappointed when she saw all the scratches she had made in her one-day-old drum. I had quite a time explaining that drum warranty does not cover scratching with a coathanger. =^..^=

[lenovos]

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I remember setting up developer, you had slowly dumb in the dv unit. The caps were metal and once in a while I would contact the mag roller and get a little shock.

Anyone up for an SCM 1200? Panasonic 2520?

[qbert69]

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Hand up for the 60+ CPM machines!...when they hit the 1.5 to 2 million mark, expect the developer unit to fail in the rear and take out every single f*cking paper feed unit!!!....Pieces of SH!T!!!

[Iowatech]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

The 3M machine that used the pink tissue paper and special white transfer paper to make a copy. First 'copier' I remember.

You might be right, but back in those days I was also dealing with infrared microfiche duplicators, and there were enough fiche fries going on then for me to deal with that.

[geordie40]

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HP Edgeline range, 2 week training course to look at a giant inkjet tumble dryer!!!, head problems, inkjet cartridge contamination, web wipes etc. OH and the gigantic firmware file and it would take about 3-4 hrs to force firmware onto machine only to find it was still not working. Complete basket case of a machine

[speedtek]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Any Konica Minolta that ends with an E! These have been the biggest piles of crap I've seen since Ricoh thought it was a great idea to use gel ink instead of toner.

I used to tell people that the "e" stood for "Ehhhhhh maybe you should buy something else".



Now I yearn for those machines now that we have the C368/C308's dropping like flies...

[Wilf]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

old school, Canon GP215. newer Toshiba 2500c.

[harleyrider]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Any SAVIN liquid from the late 70's 750,770etc. Then to make them even worse the great Landa retro kit.

[fshead]

Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

Any SAVIN liquid from the late 70's 750,770etc. Then to make them even worse the great Landa retro kit.

i use to rebuild the old 770s and 780s for an independant sales guy and they ran much better than the dry toner machines i serviced for minolta and sharp
prior.
the early kits with "bunny brushes and filters that if they overtoned you had a long day ahead of you