Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • galexander37
    Technician
    • May 2007
    • 16

    #91
    Crappy machine

    Hey jcirafic,
    The 9040 had liquid toner in the units and fuser oil in the fuser. When it mixed we had a blue mixture that leaked on the duplex. The 5030 and it's brothers was the first copier I ever worked on in my career.
    g

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    • BondoFox
      Technician
      • May 2007
      • 13

      #92
      Sharp SF-900. Was so bad, the company fired everyone associated with the project! The number of Tech Bulletins was the size of a small community phone book and it still couldn't be fixed to manufacturer standards.

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      • Kinkypupper

        #93
        Has to be a toss up between Olivetti Copia ( those size relays were BAD) Or the Toshiba flat bed copier the model I do not remember that was a wet toner machine and dryer jams always caught the paper on fire..

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        • Mdkoh
          Technician
          • Jun 2007
          • 29

          #94
          Being a savin guy

          Let me tell you some stories, the worst table top copiers were the Savin 840 and 7010. The 840 was a liquid table top, it made unGodly noises and leaked like a siv. The scanner clutch was always binding and driving the platen if not breaking the spring entirely. Heaven help the customer who thought they could pick it up and take it anywhere without draining it!! The 7010 just never worked right. System 600, system 850. Lest we forget the worst product ever concieved "The Landa Process".Talk about a goo maker. Nice to know they finally got it out of their heads that liquid toner would ever work. My head, I just remembered, the V-35 with color bank technology. What were they thinking???????

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          • Ctl-Alt-Del
            Trusted Tech

            Site Contributor
            250+ Posts
            • Jul 2006
            • 430

            #95
            Originally posted by Lance
            Anything called a MOPIER
            HP makes a great printer but the Mopiers were a joke

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            • Paper_Jam
              Expecting a call.

              100+ Posts
              • Jun 2007
              • 101

              #96
              Originally posted by Mdkoh
              Let me tell you some stories, the worst table top copiers were the Savin 840 and 7010. The 840 was a liquid table top, it made unGodly noises and leaked like a siv. The scanner clutch was always binding and driving the platen if not breaking the spring entirely. Heaven help the customer who thought they could pick it up and take it anywhere without draining it!! The 7010 just never worked right. System 600, system 850. Lest we forget the worst product ever concieved "The Landa Process".Talk about a goo maker. Nice to know they finally got it out of their heads that liquid toner would ever work. My head, I just remembered, the V-35 with color bank technology. What were they thinking???????
              Another old dog like me. Well the Savin 840 was a POS but their scanners (moving platens) were driven by a chain which was slightly smaller than a bicycle chain. I had a call on one that comitted suicide, a woman re-arranged her office a bit and put it right next to a large file cabinet, when she hit print it shoved itself onto the floor.

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              • Bizhub
                Trusted Tech
                • May 2007
                • 147

                #97
                I found the Minolta Ep30 to be poor, and good at melting things !
                The Minolta EP4210 was the biggest pile of junk that I had the misfortune to work on.
                The CF70 came close too.
                The CF1501 deserves a mention as well.

                The EP850 has to win it with the 3part document feeder, always jamming
                R15,F15 etc etc

                But Konica always made a crapier machine.

                And then they merged

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                • Rudi
                  Technician

                  250+ Posts
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 251

                  #98
                  KONICA minolta

                  Any machine that wears the minolta logo but has a konica design to it is crap , DI 650 , 7210 , BIZHUB 420 , 500 ALL CRAP , sorry to say.

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                  • wagon
                    Village Idiot

                    500+ Posts
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 654

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Rudi
                    Any machine that wears the minolta logo but has a konica design to it is crap , DI 650 , 7210 , BIZHUB 420 , 500 ALL CRAP , sorry to say.
                    I agree! They should have sacked all of the Konica guys in Japan when the merger happened! Maybe a buyback scheme like they had for some firearms in Australia - they give you $ for Konica (say, 7020, 7222, 7145 etc.) and crush machine on the spot.
                    If you are hitting your head up against a wall it always feels better when you stop.

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                    • knightfall
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 633

                      #100
                      Originally posted by wagon
                      I agree! They should have sacked all of the Konica guys in Japan when the merger happened! Maybe a buyback scheme like they had for some firearms in Australia - they give you $ for Konica (say, 7020, 7222, 7145 etc.) and crush machine on the spot.
                      I'll agree to that but instead of crushing the machines on the spot make it a sport event where all technicians who had to endure service calls get to pummel it to pieces.
                      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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                      • wagon
                        Village Idiot

                        500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 654

                        #101
                        Yes, I think technician induced damage is great, but what about some "Mythbusters style" explosions? All that dev and toner everywhere! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha (said with evil voice!).
                        If you are hitting your head up against a wall it always feels better when you stop.

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                        • dogsbody
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 289

                          #102
                          All those little minolta's we had rebadged as Konica like the 7115, hate them.
                          1312 Konica (no idea who made that one).
                          The winner for me though is the KyoceraMita C2630, big, slow, unstable image, drops toner, so much time wasted, worst i've worked on - and I started with Konica 9028's.
                          The force will be with you always.

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                          • FRIDGEMAGNET
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 377

                            #103
                            Ha!
                            Any of you guys ever worked on a Minolta EP710?
                            Hell has a special place for the design team of this pup. Hope they were put up against a wall and shot! How anything like this got on the market is incredible.

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                            • pjdbm
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 360

                              #104
                              Sharp SF2020 is a big pile of crap.

                              AR507 is a medium pile of crap

                              AR168 is a small pile of crap

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                              • JOEYSULLIVAN
                                Technician
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 20

                                #105
                                BEST WAS SHARP 8100= I sold this to a church (they made over a million copies on it)

                                In the late 70's The Sharp 726 and Royal RBC III had toasters for fuser units and could literaly burn a building down because the paper that jammed in the heater grid would occasionaly catch fire. In the 80's my vote goes to ANY Panajunk ... I mean Panasonic. in the 90's Canon had a stroke of genius adding a mountain of corona wires, that needed constant tweaking and adjusting. "No Sir, this isnt a suicide attempt.....I know it looks bad that its been 3 HOURS restringing this corona unit..But" And finally my choice of WORST: reliability wise, copy quality wise and consumer ripoff via brain washing (Govt cospiracy?) Xerox is BAR NONE consistently and shamelessly, pedaled the biggest piles of shit in the guise of a photocopier. (The company has Sharp make the little turds and then charge double the toner price because Xerox is on the label). They have tried monopolizing parts (Why? Its junk) in the past and lost a lawsuit when they fought it in court. If not for US Government contracts, Xerox would have been out of bussiness years ago. The Xerox engineers designing these piles of shit they call copiers, should be working at the car wash. Oh by the way, to keep us independents out, they can only be serviced with a laptop. Woop-De-Do! Like i give a shit!

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