Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • lcastillo5
    Technician
    • Jun 2008
    • 32

    #571
    Panasonic FP-1530 and FP-2030 If you could fix those P.O.S. without a recall you could probably work on a space shuttle, and god knows those are a P.O.S. too.

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    • vincent64
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 382

      #572
      Originally posted by ZOOTECH
      We still have some of those SDs still cranking away at 5-6+ million, and the 3062 RDH along with the 4085 were a nightmare.
      5 and 6 million...wow...where ya'll getting parts from, supplies from Katun I guess, but did not think Sharp still parts for them beasties any more, or ya'll still have some parts machines hidden away

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      • BLADE
        former propeller tester

        250+ Posts
        • Dec 2009
        • 478

        #573
        someone nominated the canon np3725 in an earlier thread. From memory the np3725 was an upgraded np3525. Let me list common faults for the np3525.....aluminium pressure roller bearings would colapse, corona end blocks made from wrong type of plastic would burn out, all spring clutches would seize including dev drive, registration, duplex drive, paper feed, web drive gears would colapse, main motor brushes sticking, pale grey copies from bad dev unit design, dev bearings seize, paper lift gears braking, pcu seizes when waste full, control panel buttons fail, oneway bearings fail. All this and more at every service !!! POS

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        • kleezz

          #574
          Kleezz

          All analog sharp copiers.

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          • scanzmgs
            Service supervisor

            Site Contributor
            • Jun 2011
            • 19

            #575
            canon irc3100

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            • mjunkaged
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Feb 2009
              • 379

              #576
              I believe the 'FP' in the old Panasonic analogs stood for 'freakin' pile'!!! =oD

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              • Tricky
                Field Supervisor

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 2621

                #577
                Originally posted by scanzmgs
                canon irc3100
                Originally posted by mjunkaged
                I believe the 'FP' in the old Panasonic analogs stood for 'freakin' pile'!!! =oD
                Likewise i believe the IRC3100

                stands for

                Incapable of Running Correctly

                Or

                Inconsistently Reliable Copies

                I may be wrong though...

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                • excanonguy
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 173

                  #578
                  Originally posted by BLADE
                  someone nominated the canon np3725 in an earlier thread. From memory the np3725 was an upgraded np3525. Let me list common faults for the np3525.....aluminium pressure roller bearings would colapse, corona end blocks made from wrong type of plastic would burn out, all spring clutches would seize including dev drive, registration, duplex drive, paper feed, web drive gears would colapse, main motor brushes sticking, pale grey copies from bad dev unit design, dev bearings seize, paper lift gears braking, pcu seizes when waste full, control panel buttons fail, oneway bearings fail. All this and more at every service !!! POS
                  You have a great memory !! I had forgotten half those problems...the funny thing is the 2015's and 4540's that came out at the same time were just as bad or worse pieces of garbage lol!

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                  • Toner Boy
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                    250+ Posts
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 357

                    #579
                    Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                    Originally posted by vincent64
                    Now I like the old SD Sharps, 2060's,2260, they were alright, the 3062 with that finisher was a beast though, and the RDH, argh, but over all not bad machine, now the old SF 7800 bunch, now them were some POS.
                    But I have quickly learned, any mach you dont know too well gets to stinking real fast, even faster when you never seen it, and trying to figure out just how to get into it.
                    We all hate what we don't know, personally its Toshiba, does the software end of it ever go right?

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                    • excanonguy
                      Trusted Tech

                      100+ Posts
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 173

                      #580
                      Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                      Originally posted by Toner Boy
                      We all hate what we don't know, personally its Toshiba, does the software end of it ever go right?
                      Not that I have seen lol!

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                      • ExXeroid
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 56

                        #581
                        Re: Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever?

                        Any Copier with RMFD (ReManufactured) next to the Serial # Example Xerox 1065.
                        Any Tech will tell you it stands for Ruin My F**king Day
                        Last edited by ExXeroid; 07-15-2011, 01:37 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        • mushy
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12

                          #582
                          Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                          Based on the number of tech bulletins (a 3 in. binder full) it had to be the Konica 4003, then they had a lct that was unbelievable

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                          • wmi-steve

                            #583
                            Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                            I know I am aging myself....but I seem to recall back in the 'Old liquid' copier days of SAVIN's.... there was a conversion kit process that we could install on any liquid SAVIN copier a customer had that would allow the liquid SAVIN to be able to produce a nice rich , dark black solid fill copy like the NEW 'powder' copiers.....this NEW technololgy was called the "LANDA Process' which dealers were encouraged to sell by the hundreds. After we installed many, many of these conversion kits we started having problems with heater plate thermal meltdowns and some copiers actually catching on fire! It got so bad that a group of independent SAVIN dealers got together and had a Class action lawsuit against SAVIN and won. So there is a trip down memory lane for some of you younger techs.

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                            • CompyTech
                              Super Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 706

                              #584
                              Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                              I'm fairly new to this game an haven't worked on too many, so the worst machine I think I have seen as far as being a cheap POS is the KonicaMinolta bizhub181 and the C10. Also had some fun adventures with the C252 and bizhub 500.

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                              • excanonguy
                                Trusted Tech

                                100+ Posts
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 173

                                #585
                                Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                                The BizHub 500 is a piece of crap ! wait till you have to replace a toner bottle sensor!!

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