Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

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  • wester
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Aug 2009
    • 113

    #826
    Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

    Originally posted by harleyrider
    Any SAVIN liquid from the late 70's 750,770etc. Then to make them even worse the great Landa retro kit.
    Ahhhhh those were the days

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    • mitchvr
      Junior Member
      • May 2014
      • 5

      #827
      Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

      Dont know if its already been mentioned but the Toshiba 281c and equiv machines where horrible.
      They did a Great print but they loved to strip black developer drive gears

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      • NeoMatrix
        Senior Tech.

        2,500+ Posts
        • Nov 2010
        • 3514

        #828
        Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

        Originally posted by wester
        Ahhhhh those were the days
        Makes me want to b!tch slap Orson Welles for all those Nasuha Copier add's on TV.
        Last edited by NeoMatrix; 05-16-2016, 11:42 AM.
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        • lenovos
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Oct 2012
          • 140

          #829
          Re: Which copier was the biggest peice of crap ever

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          I think it was the DC-161 and DC-162re that if you got a paper jammed in the registration section, the only way to get it out was to scratch the shit out of the 40K yield drum. Yeah! That and cleaning charge coronas.

          I remember billing a church customer for a new drum on a DC-131. The next day the enduser got a drum wrap. To get it out, she removed the primary and cleaning corona units, bend a nice loop of coathanger, and fished out all the little penny sized bits of paper. She (and I!!!) was so disappointed when she saw all the scratches she had made in her one-day-old drum. I had quite a time explaining that drum warranty does not cover scratching with a coathanger. =^..^=
          It used to be pretty common for a customer to scratch a drum, the 131 reinstalling the MC sometimes did the trick.

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          • Coptech
            worker drone

            250+ Posts
            • Dec 2009
            • 460

            #830
            Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

            I remember the Mita 131 series. When everything was perfect, they were on the ragged edge of working. Adjusting sliding magnets on the scanner to correct image problems.

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            • blindjoe
              Technician
              • Feb 2016
              • 16

              #831
              Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

              Have to agree with techpat. Especially the 2020/2120/2116/2118 models.

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              • Lagonda
                Service Manager

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                • Aug 2008
                • 1649

                #832
                Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                Makes me want to b!tch slap Orson Welles for all those Nasuha Copier add's on TV.
                They got their moneys worth out of those ads, right up to when the Nashua name disappeared in Aust when you said "Nashua" someone said "No 1 in plain paper copiers" Not bad since he died in 1985.
                At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                • NeoMatrix
                  Senior Tech.

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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3514

                  #833
                  Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                  Originally posted by Lagonda
                  They got their moneys worth out of those ads, right up to when the Nashua name disappeared in Aust when you said "Nashua" someone said "No 1 in plain paper copiers" Not bad since he died in 1985.
                  Ha... Yeah every one would attempt parody Orson Welles deep low vocals <add bass tone> "No1 in plain paper copiers".

                  I remember wrecking a few sets of good cloths working on Nashua liquid machines. I was happy when the last one was removed from the field.

                  Long time ago..., how time fly's....
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                  • lfruean
                    Technician
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 18

                    #834
                    Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                    Originally posted by banginbishop
                    More crap from this range of machines - press roller drive gears
                    Is this for the MPC5503 series? The exploding ITB has happened to me 3 times and shredded parts of the ITB would go absolutely everywhere and get into dev's destroy the fuser etc. So it would basically mean replacement of ITB, fuser and all PCDU's. Extreme cost blow out for service department. Ridiculous!

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                    • Iowatech
                      Not a service manager

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3930

                      #835
                      Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                      Originally posted by lfruean
                      Is this for the MPC5503 series? The exploding ITB has happened to me 3 times and shredded parts of the ITB would go absolutely everywhere and get into dev's destroy the fuser etc. So it would basically mean replacement of ITB, fuser and all PCDU's. Extreme cost blow out for service department. Ridiculous!
                      Heh, that sounds like the exploding sorter Lanier had back in the analog days, although it would spew parts outside of the machine.

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                      • prado
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 7

                        #836
                        Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                        Originally posted by Iowatech
                        Heh, that sounds like the exploding sorter Lanier had back in the analog days, although it would spew parts outside of the machine.


                        Aficio 340/450 and MPC6501/7501

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                        • Lagonda
                          Service Manager

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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1649

                          #837
                          Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                          Originally posted by prado
                          Aficio 340/450 and MPC6501/7501
                          We traded in our last MP C7501 yesterday It was one of the happiest days of my life! I'm now going to have a workshop clear out and chuck a couple of grands worth of parts in the bin.
                          At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                          • BLADE
                            former propeller tester

                            250+ Posts
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 478

                            #838
                            Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                            Originally posted by Lagonda
                            We traded in our last MP C7501 yesterday It was one of the happiest days of my life! I'm now going to have a workshop clear out and chuck a couple of grands worth of parts in the bin.
                            at least the paper came out nice and flat

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                            • Lagonda
                              Service Manager

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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1649

                              #839
                              Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                              Originally posted by BLADE
                              at least the paper came out nice and flat
                              Haven't seen one yet but I believe the new '04 series comes with a de-curl roller built into the fuser.
                              At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                              • Copier Whisperer
                                Geezer Tech
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 41

                                #840
                                Re: Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

                                Originally posted by Hi-Tech Rick
                                The 3M machine that used the pink tissue paper and special white transfer paper to make a copy. First 'copier' I remember.
                                Ah yes, the old model 209. The first copier I was trained on. It used a pink intermediate paper and coated white paper. It ran at a blazing 4 copies per minute and sounded like a wash machine.

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