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  • msiudy
    Technician
    • Jan 2011
    • 47

    #46
    What small minds there are on this thread.

    Wow, I'm not really sure how to respond to such anger.

    As far as how much money I may, or may not have, you'll never know. An ignorant statement, period.

    I believe there are about 85 people who have purchased my info and have been enjoying the savings. So yes, people DO care about my "drum fix", as you call it.

    The reason it has taken me 10 months to reply is simply that I don't spend my time on line trying to impress others with my knowledge. I use my time to make money... not spend it searching threads. I just happened upon this one while looking for some other information and discovered how my idea was being trashed by those who haven't a clue as to what it is. But hey, if you're a "tech", then surely you know it all, right?

    My intelligence, or lack thereof, is something you know nothing about, stick to the facts would you? My ego? Again, you know nothing of which you speak. A jerk? Okay, depending on the day I might give you that one. Ha! Ebay? Worthless? A laughable statement at the very least.

    Now, I'll put my info out there in the public forum. I expect you to be man enough to write a sincere apology, posted in public.

    Here you go.

    FACT: ALL FOUR DRUMS ARE THE SAME.

    STEP ONE: Take the drums out, set them on the table and tell me what you see that's different about them other than the labels indicating color. The answer is NOTHING, other than the plastic tab that allows them to fit into only a certain slot, i.e. CYM or K. If that tab is gone guess what? THE DRUM FITS ANY SLOT! Holy crap, how odd! And the micro chips in them don't know what color the drum is either., they only serve to tell you the drum life. (Thanks for asking.)

    STEP TWO: When replacing a CM or Y drum, use a BLACK drum and break off the little tab. Guess what? It fits. Again, holy crap, how odd! (And if you put a black drum in the cyan slot it doesn't beep at you and tell you "Hey moron, I'm a black drum, get me out of here.", because it doesn't know.)

    STEP THREE: Send a file of a solid block of color to the copier. For instance, if you just put a black drum in the magenta slot, send a block of magenta as the file. Now print 30 copies. Watch in amazement as the first copies come out black but then they start to change to magenta.... HOLY CRAP, how odd! After 30-50 copies your BLACK DRUM is working perfectly as a MAGENTA DRUM. Holy crap, how odd!
    (NOTE: The reason you have to run the copies is to remove the "starter" charge of toner that Canon loads into the drum at the factory. Once it's gone your TONER CARTRIDGE refills the drum with the proper color. THE DRUM DOES NOT KNOW WHAT COLOR IT IS. Toner makes the color. If the drum dictated color why would you need different colors of toner? Duh...)

    Concerned about wasting toner? Don't be. A color drum costs about $100 more than a black drum. It might cost you $2-3 in toner to convert a black drum to the color you converted. (Note: Yellow, since it is a weak color compared to black, will require running about 75-100 sheets. About $4-6 in toner.)

    There is also another way to do this very same thing, and you don't have to break off the tabs on the drums. Simply remove the little brackets on your machine that allow for the drums to fit only certain slots. If you are reading this and know what I'm talking about then this is a very simple task. Remove four screws and you're done. Very simple.

    Now, back to my friend, Mr. Teckat. Sorry for the ugly email, but dude, you pissed me off and you didn't have the facts. Now that I've put it out there for all to see, we'll probably be friends. You're not a bad guy and neither am I. You just doubted me, and I really hate that. Ha! I am an honest hard working guy like everyone else here. I just happened upon something that is a valuable piece of information, I think you'll agree. Pretty cool, and a great way to save a lot of cash. So are you going to send me a hundred bucks or do you still want to wager that $10,000?

    I hope you all have been entertained and enlightened... go save yourself some money! Compliments from the ebay scam artist guy....

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    • D_L_P
      Self Employed

      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 1196

      #47
      Originally posted by copyhere
      Does anyone know what this secret is I am changing a lot of these drums and am almost temped to buy this item I saw on ebay.
      Good news copyhere, this super genius just gave away the info for free so you don't have to buy it anymore.

      Originally posted by msiudy
      ...The drum has no idea what color it is supposed to be, period....I haven't purchased a CMY drum in almost a year...If you can operate a pair of pliers and push the "copy" button on your machine then you can do this. It's that simple....Now who's the fool?
      I think we all know the answer to that question...oh well, we guessed wrong but you sure set us straight...and kinda put yourself out of business on ebay too, huh?


      BTW Ricoh techs have been doing that trick for a few years. I remember LOL'ing when I saw the email from Ricoh after they bought Ikon telling the techs to stop using black drums in the color slots even though they were so much cheaper.

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      • msiudy
        Technician
        • Jan 2011
        • 47

        #48
        Wow DLP, I never thought of that.... putting myself out of business that is... Damn, what a moron I am. Oh, wait. My business doesn't really have anything to do with this other than I made enough money from this idea to take a nice little vacation with the family. And here I give it away for free and am ridiculed? Who looks like the ass here, the guy who's giving away good info for free or the guy ridiculing him? Just how many people did you share this info you had "years ago" with? As the saintly type I would thinks literally hundreds, maybe thousands.

        So if Ricoh was doing this for years, then THEY bought Ikon, why would they then decide that it wasn't a good idea and tell the techs to stop doing this? Geez man, if you're going to make an argument at least apply some logic to it.

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        • teckat
          Field Supervisor

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2010
          • 16083

          #49
          Originally posted by D_L_P
          Good news copyhere, this super genius just gave away the info for free so you don't have to buy it anymore.



          I think we all know the answer to that question...oh well, we guessed wrong but you sure set us straight...and kinda put yourself out of business on ebay too, huh?


          BTW Ricoh techs have been doing that trick for a few years. I remember LOL'ing when I saw the email from Ricoh after they bought Ikon telling the techs to stop using black drums in the color slots even though they were so much cheaper.

          Deal in OEM only

          Drum money/cost doesn't come out of my pocket.
          90% of my Customers I deal with have full service contracts-which include Drums
          5% w/limited contracts pay for Drums
          5% are no-contract Customers/ they pay for everything

          The Service dept. always loses money with a Company- it's a write off
          It is the Contracts=Sales/Leases/Rentals/Clicks-
          Customer Stock Request of Toner/Starter/Paper/Networking/
          /Customer Damage/After Hour Request/
          = this is where u make Money

          When the surface potential of a Color Cartridge Drum( iR3200/5180 SERIES) wears down/turns almost muddy green/ it's ready for the garbage- there are no miracle's available to restore it.
          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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          • teckat
            Field Supervisor

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 16083

            #50
            Coke secret-formula.jpg
            Now that u are Rich,
            Here is COKE's secret formula , whip me up some Cases
            **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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            • msiudy
              Technician
              • Jan 2011
              • 47

              #51
              Good point Tekcat... I mentioned it in my ebay listing, but forgot on this thread. If you are under a service contract DO NOT BUY THIS OR BOTHER WITH IT. This information is only good for end users without service contracts (or independent techs who want to boost profits)

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              • D_L_P
                Self Employed

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 1196

                #52
                Teckat - I totally agree, OEM only for my customers. I wouldn't waste my time trying this trick.

                msiudy- Next time read for comprehension before you go on a rant
                Originally posted by msiudy
                ...My business doesn't really have anything to do with this...
                Originally posted by D_L_P
                ...kinda put yourself out of business on EBAY
                ebay that is, not your regular business


                Originally posted by msiudy
                Who looks like the ass here, the guy who's giving away good info for free or the guy ridiculing him?
                I'm ridiculing you for being an ass. Everyone here gives away free info, but they can do it minus the attitude.

                Originally posted by msiudy
                So if Ricoh was doing this for years, then THEY bought Ikon, why would they then decide that it wasn't a good idea and tell the techs to stop doing this? Geez man, if you're going to make an argument at least apply some logic to it.
                I didn't say Ricoh was doing this for years, I said Ricoh techs were. When Ricoh bought Ikon they (being Ricoh corp.) told the Ikon techs who worked on Ricoh (aka Ricoh techs) to stop using the black drums in color slots to save money. And how is this an argument? I thought it was merely a declarative statement.

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                • copyhere
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • May 2009
                  • 112

                  #53
                  Hey msiudy I have tested your method and it works for me I then recomended it to some of my customers and it works for them. I am always looking for ways to save my customers money and boost profits. Thanks

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                  • msiudy
                    Technician
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 47

                    #54
                    So Ricoh techs were doing this, not Ricoh? So when Ricoh bought Ikon, Ricoh had no idea that their techs were doing this. Then they arbitrarily decided that they should tell the Ikon techs to not do something they had no knowledge of? Holy crap, where's my turnip truck? WTF?

                    For the attitude, well... Go back and read the ugly-ass posts about being a scam artist and a "tool"... That will get you attitude. And by the way, since you knew of this, can you send me the link to the post where you shared this info with everyone? (It will have a date stamp on it) Since you've posted 500+ times, surely you've shared this in the past.

                    I'm really confused though. You said to "teckat", "Teckat - I totally agree, OEM only for my customers. I wouldn't waste my time trying this trick." But you say that Ricoh techs were doing this for years, and that Ricoh told the Ikon reps to stop doing this. And you were privy to an email from Ricoh telling the Ikon techs to stop doing this. So you knew that Ricoh techs were doing this for years, yet you state that "Teckat - I totally agree, OEM only for my customers. I wouldn't waste my time trying this trick." Exactly which side of your mouth are you talking out of this time?

                    And the FACT is, that in my ebay listing I made it very clear that I use only OEM products. Where is it that I mentioned using some aftermarket crap? The FACT is that I didn't.

                    I'm sorry for getting you guys all riled up, but damn. Don't criticize someone without having your facts to back it up. I simply sold info that would help people save money, it's called capitalism. Knowledge is power, thus money. You're saying you knew about this and were privy to "insider" email that said "stop doing this". And because I listed it on ebay you guys jumped all over it, and me, although you knew/know nothing about me. Nice. Do you berate the woman riding the electric cart at the grocery store because she doesn't look "disabled"? Maybe she has a heart condition? The point is, you don't know, and when you don't have all the facts it's best to keep your mouth shut. God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason...

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                    • msiudy
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 47

                      #55
                      You're welcome copyhere

                      Glad I could share some info that helps other folks. Good luck and best wishes.

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                      • teckat
                        Field Supervisor

                        Site Contributor
                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 16083

                        #56
                        Magneto.jpg
                        Case Closed.JPG
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                        • msiudy
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 47

                          #57
                          Wow! I have just read through all of the posts on here and you guys are brutal! I see where I've been called some ugly things and accused of being a scammer.

                          Teckat has been especially disparaging. I know you guys have years of experience and more knowledge than I do, but have you ever been working on something, having a problem, and someone who knows nothing about it walks up and says "hey, why is that thing hanging off the side over there?", then there's your solution. All the while you were banging your head against the wall because you couldn't figure it out, and here comes this guy who points out the OBVIOUS. Yeah, I'm that guy. Sometimes you need to look beyond what you know... it's called perspective. Sometimes you're so close to it that you can't see another point of view. We all do it, but maybe you should try to look beyond. In modern terms it's called "thinking outside the box". It used to be called "listening" or being "open minded". Try it, it's a wonderful tool and you all have it in your tool bag.

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                          • msiudy
                            Technician
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 47

                            #58
                            Point made teckat. case closed.

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                            • msiudy
                              Technician
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 47

                              #59
                              Rep Power

                              I think my REP POWER just surged....

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                              • teckat
                                Field Supervisor

                                Site Contributor
                                10,000+ Posts
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 16083

                                #60
                                now that this has been put to bed,
                                it's time for some real support work~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


                                have a peaceful year
                                **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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