GPR-11 Drums Secret for longer life?

[Canuck]

Hey TOOL
What does this have to do with my country? Do you see me slandering the U.S.A.? No, you have a great country. This just goes to show how immature you are. Even the title of your post is BULL...secret to longer life...how are you extending the life? You are not,just trying to find suckers.I help with technical issues on this forum,not cater to people trying to make a few bucks. You claim to be such a genius,yet you ask stupid simple questions that anyone who operates these copiers(you say you have) should know. Tek is just being polite. If he or any of the other techs try this they will see that it does not work. You insult my technical abilities and the fact is I have forgotten more in the past week that you will know in your entire life. You boast that you are a genius. Man you are comical. If it works for you,good for you. You are as bad as the idiot that does color on wide format and cuts the sheets up. End of discussion.Good luck with your scam. By the contents of your posts I have come to the conclusion that you are on meds...or should be. Have a good day

[msiudy]

Fact one: I didn't start this thread and had nothing to do with the title.

Fact two: No where did I claimed to be a genius.

Fact three: This discussion is over.

Fact four: I have nothing against Canada.

[msiudy]

Teckat, you wouldn't happen to have a 3200 parts manual in PDF would you?

I need a couple of parts. Let me know.

Thanks.

[DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS]

Ee....eh! Thank GOD this thread is back ! I suppose it was being closed prematurely, there are still issues.
In my view this is" the MOTHER OF ALL POSTS". That guy, msiudy, has offered one of the MOST DOWN-TO-EARTH technical explanations I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THIS FORUM, to defend his 'product'. What more can one add or subtract from such article?
The guy, msiudy, did his research and knows his product thoroughly well. A real intellectual who, before putting his product on the international market- ebay, also fully prepared himself to defend it against any criticism.
By allowing his 'critics' time (several months) to debate and criticize his product, without any interruptions,he enabled them to expose their ignorance and "technical nakedness" about his product. And when he eventually moved to silence them, he did it with utmost respect, calmness and gentleness of a true statesman.
The guy has not only exposed to us his intellectual prowess and technical capabilities, but also the TRUE SECRETE behind the color technology in a DOWN-TO-EARTH, simple, layman's language.
This is what I may refer to as 'APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY' which can help change the lives of tens of thousands of end users , especially in developing countries, where I happen to live.
In short, A PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO A PRACTICAL PROBLEM, as opposed to theories.
Needless to say, msiudy, you may have now give some of us the much needed "AMMUNITION"
to get rich. We shall put it to the test, although a fellow tech had sometime back told me a similar thing and I had doubted him!
Thank you msiudy, & even your critics without whose strong criticism you wouldn't be able to come out openly to 'reveal' this SECRETE to us ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE.
I SUGGEST your REP POWER be increased by another 1, and you be PROMOTED to the rank of a TRUSTED TECH,- with immediate effect!

[teckat]

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[charm5496]

Hey TOOL,I'm not done with you
Do not believe this guy. He is a scammer. Reasons:
Machine will not pass ATR,SALT-DHalf,SALT-Dmax image stabilization with black drum in color position.You can turn off Pascal and everything you can in service mode but you cannot stop the machine from looking at ATR density patches on ITB. You cannot get the machine to do your stated 75 black prints to deplete the black toner. It will error out E-020,XXOB...depends on color you tried to trick. Even if you cheat the interlocks and have it do image stabilization with a proper drum in it and then change the drum,as soon as you copy or send a print the machine will error out. WE TRIED IT ON 2 DIFFERENT 3200 machines and always got same result...E-020 errors. You cant fool the machine. The machine is looking for a color patch on the ITB and it sees black. Black absorbs a lot more light than color. THE MACHINE WILL ERROR. Try it for yourself techs. I'll take you up on that 10,000 dollar offer.WE TRIED IT. IT DOES NOT WORK. You might be able to BS some end users or techs that are not familiar with what the machine does during image stabilization,but you cant fool everybody. Like I said. you are a TOOL.Don't believe a word this crook says.

actually it does work on both 3200 and 5180 series. Have one of each running in my office for two months now without any issues.

[teckat]

Any non-Canon Authorized Company/Dealer/or Technician>

Can put in,replace & run any invented and non-OEM Crap they want>
Drums,Toner,Parts -etc>etc>etc-
It's the aftermath they have to deal with, when things go hairy.

[mrfixit51]

Life is just easier with the plug-n-play of using the correct drum,,, I have better things to do with my time, like getting on to the next call quicker instead of trying to milk down the crappy image till it is running o.k. Time is money too!

[charm5496]

I tested to just to see if it actually does work or not. That whole seeing is believing thing. I can't see changing out the rear end cap on 190 drum units that our location insalled last year at various accounts. But if you are a do it yourself guy and own your own shop the extra savings could mean a lot to his bottom line.

[teckat]

how does the yellow patch gradation read
when u turn on printer w/black unit installed installed in yellow place ?

I would never use this method everything we use is 95% OEM

[msiudy]

Charm, I'm not sure what you mean by changing out end caps. All that is required to convert a black drum to a color is breaking off the black plastic tab and running some copies. If by end caps you mean the "brackets" on the machine, yes, that would take a few minutes per machine, but not a big deal, otherwise just break off the tabs. Just a thought, 190 drums @ $100 savings per is some serious cash, like $19,000...

I keep reading where some of you guys are referring to "only OEM" for your machines. I agree. I ONLY use OEM products. Nothing about this has anything to do with the after market crap that's out there.

Teckat, I'm not sure where the yellow patch gradation is read, but all the drums are manufactured the same. The ONLY difference is the "starter" charge of toner that's put into them, oh yeah, and the labels indicating which color they are supposed to be. Other than that, no difference. Just out of curiosity I have changed the chips and the little wired in chip module on a couple of these to see if the machine would read them or kick them. None get kicked. Regardless of color, all four color drums are the same. Yes, I know that some of you tech guys, who have far more knowledge and experience than I do, simply don't agree. That's fine, but this does work, and when you're replacing a set of drums why spend the extra money?

[teckat]

auto.JPGif the drum unit is not new, this sequence is not executed; the sequence used at power-on (1) or (2) is executedColor Displacement Detection/Correctionduring warm-up after replacement of the drum unitduring quick correction (auto gradation correction)The Y pattern is used as the reference. The machine identifies the degree of color displacement in sub scanning direction with reference to the timing at which other color patterns are checked after a check on the Y pattern.
If the timing is not correct, the machine corrects the laser write start timing in sub scanning direction.

ATR Control
The machine executes ATR control to maintain a specific image density, which otherwise
would change as more and more toner is used. The machine measures the concentration of toner and adjusts its supply.
ATR.JPG

[msiudy]

Teckat, you are the undisputed KING! Great explanation and from that, I can see why you don't think this should work.

All kidding aside, you should ask for a raise! You obviously know your stuff, very well.

(I still think SALT is for shots of Tequila though...)

[teckat]

stabilizes development characteristics
(SALT).

SALT= Stabilizing Application for Linearity of Toner
Measured the density for CMYK toners to stabilize print quality
introduced in 1991 for CLC300

[teckat]

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