ir2270 3570 4570 fuser Anyone rebuilding these, if so care to pass on secrets ?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Simons
    Trusted Tech
    • Jun 2008
    • 490

    #1

    ir2270 3570 4570 fuser Anyone rebuilding these, if so care to pass on secrets ?

    I think its cheaper and alot less worry and work to send these back to canon for rebuild. I have heard of several people fail trying to refurb them in shop.

    I thought it would be fun to hear from any of you that have mastered it 100% correct.
  • teckat
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16083

    #2
    i think u can replace the pressure roller with no problem
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

    Comment

    • SCREWTAPE
      East Coast Imaging

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 3396

      #3
      Originally posted by Simons
      I think its cheaper and alot less worry and work to send these back to canon for rebuild. I have heard of several people fail trying to refurb them in shop.

      I thought it would be fun to hear from any of you that have mastered it 100% correct.
      These can be rebuild, 15 to 20 minutes
      I do it all the time Parts like, fixing film, pressure roller, bushings are all that need to be replaced.
      I had to do one today.
      After 500k to 700k then you can consider replacing the whole unit.
      There are no secrets.

      Comment

      • kuby
        Senior Tech

        1,000+ Posts
        • Oct 2007
        • 1384

        #4
        Yea, I rebuilt 3 this month. Worked Great.

        Comment

        • costd
          Technician

          250+ Posts
          • Jan 2008
          • 409

          #5
          We had a real QC problem with rebuilt units from Canon so I was rebuilding these (except we bought rebuilt film units) until we found TSA could sell us a rebuilt unit for $6 (including shipping) over the price we pay for just the parts (not including my time). No spamming. TSA has done well by us - your milage may vary.

          Comment

          • mrfixit51
            Lead Service Technician

            1,000+ Posts
            • Oct 2008
            • 1975

            #6
            I agree with all the others here,,, the rebuild is no big deal, fix film assembly, is all I replace on most of them. When they get long in the tooth, then the pressure roller and bushings,, also don't forget the clean roller. You can use the 2200 clean roller, just pull it out of it's frame.
            "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

            Comment

            • Simons
              Trusted Tech
              • Jun 2008
              • 490

              #7
              Well ill be a son of whiskey barrel. I still would like to hear about costd detailed experience with using that SIX DOLLAR film from TSA. thanks!

              Comment

              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

                Site Contributor
                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22952

                #8
                Simon,
                I think you read that wrong. The way I read that past was:

                parts cost + $6 = cost of TSA refurbished fuser

                Personally I have a hard time believing that since the parts total for one of these rebuilds is $65.00 (including shipping).

                This is not to impune TSA World in any way. They provide great service and stock a wide variety of parts that I can't get anywhere else. prntrfxr, anything to say?
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

                Comment

                • costd
                  Technician

                  250+ Posts
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 409

                  #9
                  Blackcat - I guess you use a different supplier as our parts cost for a complete rebuild including a rebuilt film is much higher than that. Then again, we are were to getting our rebuilt fixing film assemblies from Canon. If by rebuild someone means just the fixing film - that is not a complete rebuild.

                  On the other hand, I am very open to suggestions on where I can obtain all the parts for a complete rebuild for $65 as times are really hard and we could save big bucks.

                  Not trying to start a war of how many times someone keeps the same bushing, pressure roller, etc. We also try not to replace parts that do not need it, but in my short time as a tech I have not seen many pressure rollers that go 480K.

                  A number of you guys have been around a lot longer than I have and if you know a few tricks (like Mrfixit suggesting the 2200 cleaning roller at half the cost) I am ready to take notes and give credit. Really, I want to learn.

                  Comment

                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22952

                    #10
                    At 150K, that $65 includes:
                    Fixing Film
                    Pressure Roller (I'm happy with 150K)
                    Heat Sink Roller
                    Right Door Latch

                    PR Bearings adds $8 at 300K

                    There's an incremental cost for fixing film lubricant. The film comes with a teeny little packet that is nearly half of what you need. Add a few more cents, lets say $0.10 each.
                    =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

                    Comment

                    • costd
                      Technician

                      250+ Posts
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 409

                      #11
                      Thanks for the info. We have to purchase the rebuilt film assembly as I have been told it takes special equipment - and my talent falls short. Don't know why it seems to me 240K was right and have been bummed I can only get about 210 or so even though I replace the heat sink every time I do a drum.

                      Thanks again for the info. I may try rebuilding again and see how far replacing just the fixing assembly gets me. Will cost more than 65, but a lot less than what we pay now.

                      Comment

                      • Tricky
                        Field Supervisor

                        Site Contributor
                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2621

                        #12
                        Originally posted by costd
                        Thanks for the info. We have to purchase the rebuilt film assembly as I have been told it takes special equipment - and my talent falls short.

                        Special equipment ? I've fitted a few of these films and so long as you get the fixing film home position patch on the right way round you wont have any problems.

                        Comment

                        • costd
                          Technician

                          250+ Posts
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 409

                          #13
                          Maybe I should give it a try. Nothing to lose. Is this for e0007 only or just a film for the e0001/0002/0003 codes also (my most common codes)? Actually I usually just try to reset a 0001 if I can.

                          Comment

                          Working...