Recently placed this machine in a private school got a call about constant jaming turns out cust was using 3m pp2200 transparencies with paper setting correct-never makes it past reg roll. Is there a comercially available transparency film comperable to the canon 6101AJ28AA? they run alot of transparencies (thank you salesman!) Also on the media sheet it says only MONO color (black) only....does that mean that it will jam if they try to run in color mode or that the colors wont fuse?
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Does the iR-C4080 use reflective sensors or photointerrupters with flags, or some combination of both?
The problem comes in with reflective sensors. The sensor is looking for the paper to reflect back the beam from the sender, but a transparency is... well, transparent. No reflection.
If it's a problem with the physical properties of the transparencies, you might try 3M 2950 transparencies. When the NP-6085 first came out we had all kinds of trouble getting transparencies to pass. Only the original Canon (very expensive) or the 3M 2950 transparencies worked reliably (of course using the proper media settings). =^..^=If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
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If at all possible, try to stay with the Canon brand ones; they are the ONLY ones which you know will work.
The cost difference will be more than made up for by the reliability factor.“I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim HawkinsComment
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Wow I'm surprise it doesn't work.
Are they using the stack bypass?Comment
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No. Since temperature is the issue with transparencies, and Canon color tends to fuse at cooler temperatures than black & white only models, that should not be a problem. What you may find though, is that the multiple layers of toner required to create a specific color are no longer transparent. So when you place this color transparency on the viewer, it will act only as a template, resulting in a black & white silhouette, not a color image. Also, if you select the proper media type the machine just may not let you select color (for the reason above). =^..^=If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Color and black-and-white printer transparencies have two
different types of coatings, specifically because they each use disparate toners. When
projected on a screen, black-and-white transparency images only have to block light.
On the other hand, color laser transparencies have to make the toners transparent in
order to project color.
Choosing the wrong film can impair the quality of the project and could jam the printer. Check your printer or copier manual for its recommendations and check the film to ensure it works with your equipment.
Transparencies have different coatings depending upon which type of printer they are designed for.
These differences in coatings are necessary because of the way each type of printing equipment deposits ink on the film.
There also are differences in film designed for copiers, some of which require film with sensor strips. "Sensor strips note the difference in opacity (whether plain or coated paper or a transparency is used) and determine the amount of ink to use" based upon that opacity. If your copier doesn't require sensor strips, you can save money by buying transparencies without strips that are designed for plain-paper copiers.
If a transparency package indicates that it works with a particular machine, it should produce quality images even though some printer and copier manuals recommend their own brands of transparencies.
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Its still strange that this is Canon recommended media and the machine won't accept it.
There two options of transparency media; And this item # 6101AJ28AA is recommended, the other one isn't.
I would call the salesman!Comment
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there is also one thing to remember>
the amount of transparencies customer uses (A LOT)
u need to remove that bypass tray/ and inspect & clean that bypass feed roller/ it becomes slick/ ??
mf roller..JPG
have u tested plain paper ?? in bypass-
The Canon product for this machine will not state MONO Color (Black Only)
Have u been to Customer/ to confirm settings/ & inspect bypass unit ??
Clean & Check-OHP1 transparency sensor (front) detects a transparency.
Clean & Check-OHP2 transparency sensor (rear) detects a transparency.
OHP..JPG
OHP1..JPGLast edited by teckat; 06-21-2010, 05:29 AM.**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Good suggestion teckat.Comment
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