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  • blazebusiness
    SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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    • Apr 2010
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    #1

    Test charts

    Thought I'd post a few test charts .............One can never have too many----Blaze
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    sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com
  • deep
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2008
    • 208

    #2
    A few is enough. Thanks for your test chart.
    Kenny

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    • Oze
      Ricoh Fanboy

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2008
      • 1663

      #3
      ALWAYS great to have some backup copies on a thumbdrive for when you leave them on a customer's glass....which is ALL too frequent with me...thanx blaze.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        • Jul 2007
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        #4
        More PDFs

        Thanks Blaze.

        Let me contribute from a slightly different category: Image Quality PDFs. =^..^=
        Attached Files
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        • teckat
          Field Supervisor

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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by blazebusiness
          Thought I'd post a few test charts .............One can never have too many----Blaze

          Great test charts/ but i have learned, anytime a tech or a salesman start showing Color test charts to a customer , you are obligated to meat the demands of the customer, without a leg to stand on. The test chart Color & Grey Scale are very deceiving , it all depends on customers environment, paper, & machine maintenance, and their understanding of the range of Color. I never carry or use them , and when a customer whips out a test chart, I tear it up.
          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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          • RRodgers
            Service Manager

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            • Jun 2009
            • 1947

            #6
            cool
            Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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            • Oze
              Ricoh Fanboy

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2008
              • 1663

              #7
              Originally posted by teckat
              Great test charts/ but i have learned, anytime a tech or a salesman start showing Color test charts to a customer , you are obligated to meat the demands of the customer, without a leg to stand on. The test chart Color & Grey Scale are very deceiving , it all depends on customers environment, paper, & machine maintenance, and their understanding of the range of Color. I never carry or use them , and when a customer whips out a test chart, I tear it up.
              I think that most of us use them as a before and after comparison for any work we do on the machines and I guess it's up to the individual tech as to whether or not they show this to the customer.
              I have no issues showing before and after test chart copies to them.
              Dealers/Service Managers that I've worked for ALWAYS ask "so what did the test chart copies look like" when you report back to them so there are occaisions where you really need to use them.

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              • sgcopiertech

                #8
                I use them at the workshop but never on the customers place >

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                • jamesyboy
                  toner monkey

                  100+ Posts
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 188

                  #9
                  This is all
                  great stuff what the sites all about sharing of info etc..

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                  • tech07
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 409

                    #10
                    thanks....just what i have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • SCREWTAPE
                      East Coast Imaging

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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3396

                      #11
                      Good charts.

                      Thanks.

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                      • blazebusiness
                        SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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                        • Apr 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by teckat
                        Great test charts/ but i have learned, anytime a tech or a salesman start showing Color test charts to a customer , you are obligated to meat the demands of the customer, without a leg to stand on. The test chart Color & Grey Scale are very deceiving , it all depends on customers environment, paper, & machine maintenance, and their understanding of the range of Color. I never carry or use them , and when a customer whips out a test chart, I tear it up.
                        In response to teckats comment-----------he has a point. Especially on "Business Color" products which have a more limited ability to reproduce color than your high end color equipment. Show a customer a test chart and there expectations may rise to an unreasonable level for other types of color reproduction and complaints may start.

                        Also---on a side note , the color a customer sees on the computor monitor may (and I say almost always does) differ slightly from the colors printed by the copier. And often-they do notice and request that you make the copier match the rgb output of the monitor.

                        I personally would never do without a test chart. I find them a valuable tool in checking overall image quality and use them daily.

                        Anyway------hope you enjoyed the charts and thanks to all who responded.
                        sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                        • teckat
                          Field Supervisor

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                          #13
                          many customers think Color Copy Machines are Printing Presses/ also a True Color Reproduction of a test sheet proves nothing to the eye, all individuals see color different. when you deal with a Graphic Artist or a Print Shop Pro they see Color Gradation issues that a novice field tech will always have trouble reproducing for them , with over 20yys exp on Canon Color products , I have seen or heard it all when it comes to Color.

                          We even have customers complain about imagePress 6000/7000 Color Reproduction/ u can't please everyone
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • SCREWTAPE
                            East Coast Imaging

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                            #14
                            I tell customers,

                            you get what you paid for.

                            Some expections that customers have are quite beyond. They purchase a ufr kit and a business color copier and expect wonderful output quality prints.

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                            • teckat
                              Field Supervisor

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                              • Jan 2010
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                              #15
                              I always blame the Salesperson, a Knowledgeable Tech, Trained on Color Products always knows whats best for his customers when they want to purchase or upgrade to a Color product. I have put many a salesperson in their place. A happy customer spreads the word about his service person. You rarely here a customer praise a salesperson.
                              **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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