Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

[The clk man]

My clc 3100 is throwing a E020 1F1 code. I have replace the developer in the yellow. I went into service mode and couldn't stir the yellow. Also the copier keeps asking for toner in in y, m, and cyan, yet they are full. Any suggestions?

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

Have you tried the two most important thing on this machine, make sure the patch sensor is clean & make sure the drum life is below 70%

where are the patch sensors.

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

The patch sensor sits above the drum, it reads the patch on the drum & uses that reading to set the toner levels, I imagine it is dirty that is why the machine is asking for toner when they are full.
I have sent you a PM with a link for you to download the manual, I suges you read it!
You need to know what you are doing on this model.

I cleaned all 4 of them just before I posted here. I also changed the developer. I went into service mode and couldn't initialize or stir any of the colors. Can the E020 1f1 code be cleared my friend?

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

when u added yellow developer the unit is was rotating /
when u select stir u receive the error / swap the salt sensors ----


E020 with a sub code of 01F1 02F1 03F1 04F1

error code can be generated if the developer unit is starved of toner due to the hopper not supplying toner. The cause of the hopper not feeding toner to the developer unit can be electrical, mechanical, or customer induced.
The electrical cause can manifest as a bad toner level sensor, poor connection of the sensor, faulty hopper drive clutch or its connectors, faulty DC-controller, blown fuse on the DC-fuse pcb.


The mechanical cause can manifest as a problem with the drive belt or it's gears, a broken auger, toner sticking around the hopper toner level sensor.


Customer induced depletion of toner in the hopper can be caused when the customer does not add toner when it is called for and just tapping the hopper and turning the machine off and back on to complete a copy run.

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

when u added yellow developer (Pressing ‘SPLY') the unit is was rotating /
when u select stir u receive the error / swap the salt sensors ----


E020 with a sub code of 01F1 02F1 03F1 04F1

error code can be generated if the developer unit is starved of toner due to the hopper not supplying toner. The cause of the hopper not feeding toner to the developer unit can be electrical, mechanical, or customer induced.
The electrical cause can manifest as a bad toner level sensor, poor connection of the sensor, faulty hopper drive clutch or its connectors, faulty DC-controller, blown fuse on the DC-fuse pcb.


The mechanical cause can manifest as a problem with the drive belt or it's gears, a broken auger, toner sticking around the hopper toner level sensor.


Customer induced depletion of toner in the hopper can be caused when the customer does not add toner when it is called for and just tapping the hopper and turning the machine off and back on to complete a copy run.

I changed out the hopper and still have the code. Can you tell me where I can find the broken gear? I also pulled the drum unit out and turned the gear on the back of each unit and all 4 of the turned freely.

One more thing, you said something about 70% drum life, how do I check that Sir.

Update: I changed out the yellow unit and put new developer in and even changed the drum out. NO GO. In service mode, it won't let me initialize or stir the yellow or any color for that matter.

Also the error code E260-0001 shows up, but when I turn the copier off and on again it usually goes away.

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

E260 Error Code

First Check the SW1(front door switch).
Switch SW1 may be arcing, preventing the 24 volts to be present at the DC Controller when the main power switch is turned on. If the problem is caused by a defective switch, replace the switch (P/N WC2-0185-000).


down to basics>

explain to me how u perform a full developer change>
step by step> do not leave anything out !!!!!

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

I found a second yellow unit that I just happened to have. I emptied the old developer out and put new developer in. I put the unit back in and tried to initialize and stir the developer in service mode but it wouldn't let me.

Also where is the fuse that was talked about in an earlier post?

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

I found a second yellow unit that I just happened to have. I emptied the old developer out and put new developer in. I put the unit back in and tried to initialize and stir the developer in service mode but it wouldn't let me.

Replace the yellow SALT SENSOR Assembly > and throw the old one the Garbage >

down to basics> do u run the SUPPLY feature to add developer ???

explain to me how u perform a full developer change>
step by step> do not leave anything out !!!!!

did u look in the back of printer at the timing belts?
did u check the DEV.UNIT CONNECTING CABLE FOR YELLOW in rear machine back area
did u check the DEVELOPING DRIVE ASSEMBLY
NOTE:

below the hopper units is a black drive belt> it sits over four white roller pulley spacers>spacer rollers have white flanges to hold belt from slipping off> they crack off >causing the belt to slip off and lose tension>
there is also white gears that breaks toward the end off belt-

u need to remove entire hopper unit to inspect these areas

hopper.JPG

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

I found a second yellow unit that I just happened to have. I emptied the old developer out and put new developer in. I put the unit back in and tried to initialize and stir the developer in service mode but it wouldn't let me.

Replace the yellow SALT SENSOR Assembly > and throw the old one the Garbage >

down to basics> do u run the SUPPLY feature to add developer ???

explain to me how u perform a full developer change>
step by step> do not leave anything out !!!!!

did u look in the back of printer at the timing belts?
did u check the DEV.UNIT CONNECTING CABLE FOR YELLOW in rear machine back area
did u check the DEVELOPING DRIVE ASSEMBLY
NOTE:

below the hopper units is a black drive belt> it sits over four white roller pulley spacers>spacer rollers have white flanges to hold belt from slipping off> they crack off >causing the belt to slip off and lose tension>
there is also white gears that breaks toward the end off belt-

u need to remove entire hopper unit to inspect these areas

click on image below to open full

hopper.JPG

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

Replace the yellow SALT SENSOR Assembly > and throw the old one the Garbage >

down to basics> do u run the SUPPLY feature to add developer ???

explain to me how u perform a full developer change>
step by step> do not leave anything out !!!!!

did u look in the back of printer at the timing belts?
did u check the DEV.UNIT CONNECTING CABLE FOR YELLOW in rear machine back area
did u check the DEVELOPING DRIVE ASSEMBLY
NOTE:

below the hopper units is a black drive belt> it sits over four white roller pulley spacers>spacer rollers have white flanges to hold belt from slipping off> they crack off >causing the belt to slip off and lose tension>
there is also white gears that breaks toward the end off belt-

u need to remove entire hopper unit to inspect these areas

click on image below to open full

[ATTACH=CONFIG]15887[/ATTACH]

Are these gears on the hopper or the machine?

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

I just took off the back cover and the gears and belts you spoke of seem to be in good shape. I also found the gears and belts on the bottom of the hopper, they also seem to be in good shape.

Also when I turn the gear on the right of the hopper by the black hopper. all 4 colors turn.

Where is the salt sensor please.

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

I just took off the back cover and the gears and belts you spoke of seem to be in good shape. I also found the gears and belts on the bottom of the hopper, they also seem to be in good shape.

Also when I turn the gear on the right of the hopper by the black hopper. all 4 colors turn.

Where is the salt sensor please.

sounds like this is the first time u ever worked on a CLC Printer to ask that question

each color has a salt sensor unit/next to the drum
as each color has a primary corona unit/
SALT window is cleaned with Lint-free paper & or Blower brush/Dry-wiping; do not use
solvent

u also need to check if the SALT sensor shutter is functioning

SALT.JPG
READ THIS PDF>>>>Replacing Developer.pdf

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

sounds like this is the first time u ever worked on a CLC Printer to ask that question

each color has a salt sensor unit/next to the drum
as each color has a primary corona unit/
SALT window is cleaned with Lint-free paper & or Blower brush/Dry-wiping; do not use
solvent

u also need to check if the SALT sensor shutter is functioning

[ATTACH=CONFIG]15891[/ATTACH]
READ THIS PDF>>>>[ATTACH]15892[/ATTACH]

If you are referring to the long glass looking part, I cleaned all of them. I am NOT a copier Technician, I'm just a poor man trying to feed my family.

[teckat]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

If you are referring to the long glass looking part, I cleaned all of them. I am NOT a copier Technician, I'm just a poor man trying to feed my family.

Sorry but>
this a an old model/ there are to many thing that can go wrong with e020 error codes/to explain here/ sight unseen
1-bad salt sensor
2-bad primary corona/bad primary grid plate
3-wrong procedure
4-old drum
5-connector issue
6-board issue
7-closing the laser shutters properly> before hopper is lifted up to set position
and on & on & on


why haven't u posted your exact procedure on dev change

your best bet is to call for a trained Canon tech on this product


the pdf which shows >developer change must be followed exactly

[The clk man]

Re: Canon clc 3100 error code E020 1F1 Help PLEASE

Sorry but>
this a an old model/ there are to many thing that can go wrong with e020 error codes/to explain here/ sight unseen
1-bad salt sensor
2-bad primary corona/bad primary grid plate
3-wrong procedure
4-old drum
5-connector issue
6-board issue
7-closing the laser shutters properly> before hopper is lifted up to set position
and on & on & on


why haven't u posted your exact procedure on dev change

your best bet is to call for a trained Canon tech on this product


the pdf which shows >developer change must be followed exactly

1-bad salt sensor - changed - didn't work
2-bad primary corona/bad primary grid plate - Changed - didn't work
3-wrong procedure - copuld be
4-old drum - changed - didn't work
5-connector issue - ???
6-board issue - ???
7-closing the laser shutters properly> before hopper is lifted up to set position
and on & on & on - ???

I have changed the developer many times over the years with no problem, I don't understand why I can't initialize of stir any of the colors.