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  • jaruwit
    Technician
    • Nov 2013
    • 10

    #1

    [CQ] Ir4570 problem on print double sided

    I found problem in print double sided with IR4570. on first page at right position to thin. second page is ok.
    Printing single page ok.

    double sided_Page_1.jpgdouble sided_Page_2.jpg
  • teckat
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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16083

    #2
    Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

    Originally posted by jaruwit
    I found problem in print double sided with IR4570. on first page at right position to thin. second page is ok.
    Printing single page ok.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]27571[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]27572[/ATTACH]
    ================================================== ==========================



    are u scanning these pages in with DF ???
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • Tonersniffer
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Nov 2012
      • 74

      #3
      Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

      1. Change in SM Copier>Adjust>HV>TR-TP-LV to 0



      You might need to change the below setting but I doubt it:
      Change in SM Copier>Option>combo TR-SW1 through TR-SW5 to read 0 when you press TR-SW1 through TR-SW5.

      If it is humid and the paper jams in the drum unit, You might want to change this back.

      Help this helps.

      Tonersniffer

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22999

        #4
        Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

        It looks to me like flip.

        Especially when doing two-sided with moist/curly paper, the first side curls left. When inverted the second side approaches the drum with a right curl. As the trail edge of the paper passes it pulls away from the drum before it is fully transferred.

        The simplest solution is to carry in a fresh ream of properly stored paper, crack it open and run duplex test images. If it's really flip, the fault will be gone. Then you can advise them on proper methods of storing paper. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • jaruwit
          Technician
          • Nov 2013
          • 10

          #5
          Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

          Originally posted by teckat
          ================================================== ==========================



          are u scanning these pages in with DF ???
          Yes I can from df?
          Image is as same as paper.
          I print on two machine IR4570. It the same result.

          I think. I ever found some document about this from canon Service Bulletin. But I lost it.
          There are change about electrode plate or some thing like that.

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          • jaruwit
            Technician
            • Nov 2013
            • 10

            #6
            Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

            Originally posted by Tonersniffer
            1. Change in SM Copier>Adjust>HV>TR-TP-LV to 0



            You might need to change the below setting but I doubt it:
            Change in SM Copier>Option>combo TR-SW1 through TR-SW5 to read 0 when you press TR-SW1 through TR-SW5.

            If it is humid and the paper jams in the drum unit, You might want to change this back.

            Help this helps.

            Tonersniffer
            It work. change Copier>Adjust>HV-TR>TR-TP-LV to 0
            thank you.

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            • Tonersniffer
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Nov 2012
              • 74

              #7
              Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

              It looks to me like flip.

              Especially when doing two-sided with moist/curly paper, the first side curls left. When inverted the second side approaches the drum with a right curl. As the trail edge of the paper passes it pulls away from the drum before it is fully transferred.

              The simplest solution is to carry in a fresh ream of properly stored paper, crack it open and run duplex test images. If it's really flip, the fault will be gone. Then you can advise them on proper methods of storing paper.


              BlackCat,

              I agree with your flip theory on machines with corona wires for seperation but the same theory for machines with transfer rollers you might want to reconsider.

              Sincerely
              Tonersniffer

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              • JoMaq
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 6

                #8
                Re: Ir4570 problem on print double sided

                Good day! I have a problem in printing from PC to IR4570 double sided, in that the 2nd page, the copy was upside down. Is there work around? Thanks in advance.

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