Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

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  • araven666
    Technician
    • Jul 2016
    • 14

    #1

    Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

    Hello, I have a problem with my C452, I have scratched one of the rollers of the fuser. I teared a small scratch on the roller. I went in two shops to find a way to replace the part but they tell me different things so I ask for a little help since no service manual explains it.

    On the picture is the tear. Is this the fuser film sleeve that I can change or is it the other roller (pressure roller) and I have to buy a new roller.
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    Thank you in advance!
  • MDR24
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2013
    • 64

    #2
    Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

    No service manual explains it because you can't exchange those parts on the fuser. If you want a new roller you'll have to buy a whole fuser and replace it.

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    • araven666
      Technician
      • Jul 2016
      • 14

      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

      No service manual says which roller is pressure and which is heat. If I have where to buy the parts and assume I can try to change it. Is it the sleeve that is damaged or the other roller?
      I can try to fix it I can't damaged any more. Worst that can happen is to have to get a new fuser. Compared to try and fix it for $50 I would give it a shot.
      Thank you for the reply anyway.

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      • Trigger
        Technician
        • Aug 2014
        • 16

        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

        Its not that hard, I've done it a few times myself. Only thing to watch out for is the muffler bearings and the pipe shaft.
        Good luck!

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        • lilleputte
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jan 2013
          • 154

          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

          Has taken them apart a few times and used pirate rollers, ( but with bad results)

          the idea is that you only replace the entire assembly !

          good luck

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          • copyman
            Owner / Technician

            Site Contributor
            2,500+ Posts
            • Sep 2005
            • 4524

            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

            Like the others said this fuser is sold as a complete unit. Perhaps aftermarket rollers available. Looking at the pictures roller don't look that bad. Is it affecting the print? If not I would just leave it alone until it gets worse. Who knows it may last it's full life cycle.

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            • araven666
              Technician
              • Jul 2016
              • 14

              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

              If it's not a 100% fill color print it prints just fine better than most Minolta I have worked with. But if it is full color it leaves a scratch mark on the paper. I have worked around that with papers that print on thick 2 since I have Minolta 363 I just run the print one more time with blank page and the fuser seales the problems but 1) that is temporary solution 2) works only till 200 gr paper and if you have more pages to print drives you insane Otherwise no problems with printer

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              • Woxner
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jul 2011
                • 826

                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                dont waste your time trying to fix this. they dont make parts. it needs the sleeve to work proper.

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                • araven666
                  Technician
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                  Originally posted by Woxner
                  dont waste your time trying to fix this. they dont make parts. it needs the sleeve to work proper.
                  Thank you! I'll post update how it turned out after replacement

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                  • copier tech
                    Field Supervisor

                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 8101

                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                    These fuser units can go over 600k so yes they are expensive but they last!

                    You can however now order the drive gears in the fuser FYI.
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

                    ​

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                    • araven666
                      Technician
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                      New China film sleeve came at last. After change I had some minor adjustments to make. Apparently the new fuser requires higher temperature. After 2 hours of testing and adjusting prints great with no problems on the print and great colors even on full black print $ 60 total repair cost.
                      500 pages later with full color prints on different types of paper and cardboard still no issues

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                      • Synaux
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1224

                        #12
                        Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                        Originally posted by araven666
                        New China film sleeve came at last. After change I had some minor adjustments to make. Apparently the new fuser requires higher temperature. After 2 hours of testing and adjusting prints great with no problems on the print and great colors even on full black print $ 60 total repair cost.
                        500 pages later with full color prints on different types of paper and cardboard still no issues
                        Who is your source for the rollers?

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                        • araven666
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                          Originally posted by Synaux
                          Who is your source for the rollers?

                          Check your messages.
                          If anyone else is interested post in thread will reply in private message

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                          • joelea
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 64

                            #14
                            Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                            Originally posted by araven666
                            New China film sleeve came at last. After change I had some minor adjustments to make. Apparently the new fuser requires higher temperature. After 2 hours of testing and adjusting prints great with no problems on the print and great colors even on full black print $ 60 total repair cost.
                            500 pages later with full color prints on different types of paper and cardboard still no issues
                            Is the sleeve a replacement roller? Was it difficult to fit? How do you know what adjustments to make? Are there instructions with it?

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                            • araven666
                              Technician
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Re: Konica Minolta C452 fuser problem

                              Originally posted by joelea
                              Is the sleeve a replacement roller? Was it difficult to fit? How do you know what adjustments to make? Are there instructions with it?

                              The sleeve is not a roller 0-02-05-1c348afdd7c272bbdc9974913a353130b9a91f41fe00987b33299376367bea16_full.jpg0-02-05-56875b0fab6024eb26fcefd2717dc7b9dcbac080d081ede67a3e20c0e6d0b776_full.jpg
                              It's not difficult to fit but you have to take the fuser unit apart
                              No adjustments disassemble change the sleeve and assemble back
                              Instruction for what ?
                              If you ask how to take the fuser unit apart yes somewhere in the service manual in the manufacturer but I don't have it

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