bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

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  • occus
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 337

    #1

    bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

    Hello

    I have a machine which prints sometime with a zoom only in feed-direction, the print is sometime 2-3mm longer.
    Feed from Bypass heavy Paper 300gr thick 4 SRA3 Format.

    Singleprints are mostly ok, but after 5-10 i get the extendend prints. Printquality is ok...

    What i have done:
    Driver test PS /PCL and from box always same result uneven long prints.
    Clean the IDC's under transferbelt
    Print Head Skew adjustment reset
    Initialisation and Gradation Adjust

    After that i get 17 good the following were again longer...
    Does anyone know the problem?

    Thanks for feedback.
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 23009

    #2
    Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

    300 gsm sounds a bit heavy for a C224e. Since that's the absolute maximum heaviest media, I think I'd try different or lighter media.

    The brochure says it can, sure. But do you think it can? It sure doesn't seem like it. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • EarthKmTech
      Step aside, noob

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2009
      • 2139

      #3
      Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

      How many pages has the machine done?

      Are the registration rollers starting to bind up yet? If you cant turn them easily with 1 finger they are too tight. (obviously non direct drive models)

      Although conveniently not mentioned in the sales brochure, YES the machine does up to 300G (thick 4) KM does not in any way guarantee image quality above thick 2 on this engine. Always a fun conversation with people sold an entry level office machine expecting production print quality.

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      • Max
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2011
        • 561

        #4
        Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

        Possibly relay rollers/reg is beginning to slip or too tight. Therefore the image looks a bit stretched.

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        • occus
          Trusted Tech

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          • Jul 2013
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          Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

          Thanks for reply.

          yes yes and yes... i know... 300gsm but the technicans and the sellers ar not the same guy... and which one has to do it again

          The Machine has around 50'000 prints.
          What ist the meaning of "starting to bind up yet" (worn out?)

          First i thought it is more a software/electronic bug, because the laser/imaging developping is involved to make a printet area ( a black square) longer?
          Otherwise i can see a break or a white/grey break if the registration roller runs too fast and stretches a area... or if it runs to slow i have to see a overlapping printet area.

          But yes i can try to replace the clutch CL4 from registration roller

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 23009

            #6
            Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

            "Starting to bind up" means the the registration roller bushings may be gummy and difficult to turn. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • allan
              RTFM!!

              5,000+ Posts
              • Apr 2010
              • 5462

              #7
              Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

              Would like to see a sample print?
              Whatever

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              • occus
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Jul 2013
                • 337

                #8
                Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

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                • Albonline
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1151

                  #9
                  Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

                  Originally posted by occus
                  Thanks for reply.

                  yes yes and yes... i know... 300gsm but the technicans and the sellers ar not the same guy... and which one has to do it again

                  The Machine has around 50'000 prints.
                  What ist the meaning of "starting to bind up yet" (worn out?)

                  First i thought it is more a software/electronic bug, because the laser/imaging developping is involved to make a printet area ( a black square) longer?
                  Otherwise i can see a break or a white/grey break if the registration roller runs too fast and stretches a area... or if it runs to slow i have to see a overlapping printet area.

                  But yes i can try to replace the clutch CL4 from registration roller
                  if the paper was traveling slower, due to drag the image would shrink,

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                  • Synthohol
                    Certified Konica Expert

                    Site Contributor
                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 5849

                    #10
                    Re: bizhub c224e print are sometime longer (up to 2-3mm)

                    I've seen thick paper stretch as it goes through the fuser. Make sure the paper is for a laser machine not injet.
                    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                    The medication helps though...

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