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  • medmouncef
    Technician
    • Feb 2013
    • 10

    #1

    [Misc] Lines on the top half of the page

    Bonjour

    On my KM C451 I have apparent horizontal lines that cross the top half of the page, Both during printing and for scanning.
    Ex : attached A4 scanned image.
    I tried several things without result : Transfer belt, toner cartridges and image units cleaning, I've done Imaging Process adjust > Gradation Adjust > Gradation Mode.
    Note that I have this problem regardless of the paper weight.

    If you have ever encountered this problem can you please help me know what causes this.

    thank you very much
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    Last edited by medmouncef; 03-27-2017, 12:11 AM. Reason: KM C451
  • Woxner
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jul 2011
    • 826

    #2
    Re: Lines on the top half of the page

    clean the laser lens

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5459

      #3
      Re: Lines on the top half of the page

      Its an old machine so i guess the cleaning wand (in the front is you open the top or second tray) is missing or the cleaning pad is shot.
      Mabe your lucky and its never been used before, else order that or only new pads.
      Whatever

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      • service_man
        Technician
        50+ Posts
        • Jul 2012
        • 59

        #4
        Re: Lines on the top half of the page

        Clean the laser, and clean the optic section.

        You have some dirty.

        Regards

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22932

          #5
          Re: Lines on the top half of the page

          Originally posted by allan
          Its an old machine so i guess the cleaning wand (in the front is you open the top or second tray) is missing or the cleaning pad is shot.
          Mabe your lucky and its never been used before, else order that or only new pads.
          Definitely magenta. Either dirty laser slit glass or foreign matter under the magenta doctor blade. Sometimes the toner contaminant on the slit glass is stuck on there well enough to require removing the laser to clean the glass. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • service_man
            Technician
            50+ Posts
            • Jul 2012
            • 59

            #6
            Re: Lines on the top half of the page

            Hello,
            Tell me, did you change the copy glass?
            If you change, maybe you not stuck good surface for reading white plate.

            And you have problem with copie and scan.

            Regards

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            • 907tec
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 434

              #7
              Re: Lines on the top half of the page

              I would definitely try cleaning the laser window first, but I'm betting that you will have to replace the Magenta Imaging Unit to fix that issue. Try running CMYK gradation prints and then posting images of them. Might be more than just the Magenta IU failing.

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              • Phil B.
                Field Supervisor

                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2016
                • 22798

                #8
                Re: Lines on the top half of the page

                Originally posted by medmouncef
                Bonjour

                On my KM C451 I have apparent horizontal lines that cross the top half of the page, Both during printing and for scanning.
                Ex : attached A4 scanned image.
                I tried several things without result : Transfer belt, toner cartridges and image units cleaning, I've done Imaging Process adjust > Gradation Adjust > Gradation Mode.
                Note that I have this problem regardless of the paper weight.

                If you have ever encountered this problem can you please help me know what causes this.

                thank you very much
                is it LEF feed?

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                • Synthohol
                  Certified Konica Expert

                  Site Contributor
                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 5737

                  #9
                  Re: Lines on the top half of the page

                  hello, just do a gradation TEST pattern of magenta, look at it, its either a bad drum, contaminated DV or a dirty laser glass. its not fuser or a "copy glass"
                  good luck.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • medmouncef
                    Technician
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Re: Lines on the top half of the page

                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    hello, just do a gradation TEST pattern of magenta, look at it, its either a bad drum, contaminated DV or a dirty laser glass. its not fuser or a "copy glass"
                    good luck.

                    Hi

                    Done as you suggested and the result is perfect . Dirt was sticking to laser glass, especially magenta.
                    Please see attached 2 gradation tests scan of pre-intervention (up) and post-intervention (lower).

                    Thank you very much.
                    Attached Files

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