C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

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  • CopierCare
    Technician
    • Aug 2015
    • 24

    #1

    C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

    Have a C6501 with a C-4521 Fault. Have switched out color registration sensors, Transfer belt, transfer belt assembly, Printer control PWB. Test sheets in adjustment areas of service print out fine. So I assume not a drive problem. Sensors read so assuming no wire problem. Fault will not go away. HELP?
  • Woxner
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jul 2011
    • 839

    #2
    Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

    you may need to replace dev and drums. this happens when they age. it doeent make good patches

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    • CopierCare
      Technician
      • Aug 2015
      • 24

      #3
      Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

      They have all been replaced very recently. Two weeks ago.

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      • methogod
        Senior Tech

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        500+ Posts
        • Dec 2008
        • 917

        #4
        Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

        clean the front sensor on the color reg sensor.

        have this happen when you let the belt cleaning unit get too old, doesn't seal and waste toner goes everywhere. Also when your waste toner augers need to be vacuumed this can happen.
        clean see how long until it happens again, i would show client how to clean as well...

        if it happens all the time then it could be failed unit.

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        • Synthohol
          Certified Konica Expert

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          • Mar 2016
          • 5799

          #5
          Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

          C-4521
          Workaround/Fix

          PROBABLE CAUSES:
          1. It is possible toner or dust is deposited between the color registration sensors, PS8 and PS9, and their outer cover. Simply wiping the sensor will not resolve the problem.
          Remove the color registration assembly (p/n A03U R7980 0) and inspect the sensors. If toner or dust is deposited between the sensor and its outer cover, the color registration assembly must be replaced.

          2. The Pressure Plate (p/n 65AA 1095 0D) that holds the color registration assembly (p/n A03U R7980 0) is malformed and is causing the color registration sensors to not read the belt correctly.
          Re-form the pressure plate that holds the color registration assembly.



          Root Cause
          C-4520 (C4520) and/or C-4521 (C4521) after power up.


          Workaround/Fix
          CAUSE: ICP17 is open on the Printer Control Board. The wiring between the printer control board and the hardware counters may be pinched. If the wire is shorted to ground, ICP17 on the printer control board will open, resulting in the error code. If the wire is broken internally without shorting, the machine will function but the counter will not increment.

          SOLUTION: Check the wiring between the PRCB and the Total Counter. There might be a short to ground close to the Total Counter. After the short is found and repaired, replace the PRCB (p/n A03UR75900).
          If the wiring is not damaged, reposition it so that it is secured in the plastic hooks behind the counters. This will keep the wiring from being pinched when the cover is removed and reinstalled.
          It is recommended that all machines be inspected at setup or the next service call to prevent future incidents.
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • methogod
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            • Dec 2008
            • 917

            #6
            Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

            whats life on belt?

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            • femaster
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2011
              • 1482

              #7
              Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

              Originally posted by methogod
              whats life on belt?
              In the original post is states that the "transfer belt" and the "transfer belt assembly" had been "switched out". So, not sure if one of those was supposed to state transfer roller, and also not sure if that means the parts were switched out with new or working used parts. Guess we need to wait and find out what that means.
              A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
              My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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              • CopierCare
                Technician
                • Aug 2015
                • 24

                #8
                Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

                Thank you everyone for the help and suggestions. Not sure what original problem ended up being. I went out to verify everything my tech was telling me and found the post holding the sensor assembly was slightly bent, reformed and it toke off and running. Amazing what a sensor pointed at the right spot can do.

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                • methogod
                  Senior Tech

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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 917

                  #9
                  Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

                  great...

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                  • mrwho
                    Major Asshole!

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                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 4299

                    #10
                    Re: C6501 with C-4521 Color Registration fault

                    Thanks for the input, will keep that in mind if that ever happens to me.

                    I was going to look for a youtube video that addresses it and post it as a reply, but I believe it is just about cleaning the sensors and not much more...
                    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
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                    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                    Ibid

                    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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