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  • EarthKmTech
    Step aside, noob

    1,000+ Posts
    • May 2009
    • 2142

    [CQ] 8 series drum life

    Can they be extended, yes or no?

    I already know the answer from my own experience, having to keep them in the car and change them for customers for "lines on print" on a regular basis.

    However being told "its not happening anywhere else" is the usual reply.

    So, "is it happening anywhere else?"
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
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    • Jul 2007
    • 22658

    #2
    Re: 8 series drum life

    They seem to be making the manufacturers quoted yield ... just barely. Not twice to three times the stated yield like the e series. The major difference is the change from charge wires to charge rollers. It must be the physical contact that makes the difference. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • EarthKmTech
      Step aside, noob

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2009
      • 2142

      #3
      Re: 8 series drum life

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      They seem to be making the manufacturers quoted yield ... just barely. Not twice to three times the stated yield like the e series. The major difference is the change from charge wires to charge rollers. It must be the physical contact that makes the difference. =^..^=
      This is also my experience.

      Hopefully some more people can add their experiences too.

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      • allan
        RTFM!!

        5,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2010
        • 5445

        #4
        Re: 8 series drum life

        Just gets past yield.
        Whatever

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        • rrrohan
          Service Manager

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          • Sep 2011
          • 1971

          #5
          Re: 8 series drum life

          Originally posted by allan
          Just gets past yield.
          Least the yield is correct. We are so use to drums exceeding life we almost expect it now so when it only manages maybe 110% we fill ripped off.

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          • Woxner
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jul 2011
            • 803

            #6
            Re: 8 series drum life

            pretty much advertise yield . once in awhile you get lucky and it goes longer

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            • Copier Addict
              Aging Tech

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              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2013
              • 12715

              #7
              Re: 8 series drum life

              We average about 1000 over advertised yield. Better than not making it to yield I guess.
              Changing from a charge corona to a charge roller is the direct cause of this, and the only reason KonMin made the change as far as I can see. They give some phony ozone reduction reason, but getting $200 every 100k instead of every 200k is the real reason.

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              • Bix
                Service Manager

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                • Apr 2018
                • 1421

                #8
                Re: 8 series drum life

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                • allan
                  RTFM!!

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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5445

                  #9
                  Re: 8 series drum life

                  Mmm does a DR512 fit in there?
                  Whatever

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

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                    • Jul 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: 8 series drum life

                    Originally posted by allan
                    Mmm does a DR512 fit in there?
                    Primary charge voltage will be significantly lower for a charge roller than a corona wire. I would expect black copies (assuming you could make it fit). =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Kidaver
                      Ghoulscout

                      500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 912

                      #11
                      Re: 8 series drum life

                      Yeah all this changing to charge rollers for ozone tree hugging green stuff has just made drum life awful. Also you can't really pop these rollers out like on a Kyocera and clean all that built up paper dust that accumulates on them due to cheap paper.
                      "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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                      • larweedad
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 78

                        #12
                        Re: 8 series drum life

                        I had one that showed the lines at 2 % life left.

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                        • AjitN
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 287

                          #13
                          Re: 8 series drum life

                          Originally posted by Kidaver
                          Yeah all this changing to charge rollers for ozone tree hugging green stuff has just made drum life awful. Also you can't really pop these rollers out like on a Kyocera and clean all that built up paper dust that accumulates on them due to cheap paper.
                          TO extend the life, frequent cleaning of charge roller is the only option, which depends upon quality of paper and environmental conditions.

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                          • Brett GS
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                            100+ Posts
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 154

                            #14
                            Re: 8 series drum life

                            Havent been that lucky to get them to run over life,had many fail long before they were due.

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                            • jamesyboy
                              toner monkey

                              100+ Posts
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 188

                              #15
                              Re: 8 series drum life

                              you can modify a k drum to fit for a colour which takes the cost down

                              and yes its the charge rollers

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