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  • Bix
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2018
    • 1421

    Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

    Hi,


    I had read some posts here in the forum about the toner indicator. From what I understand, they do not have a sensor but measure the number of toner rotations to define the amount left.


    I have a customer with a bizhub C227, monitored with CSRC. For about 3 months the black toner is stuck at 2% while the color level changes regularly.


    I honestly do not know what the customer has done with the toner. They told me that they forgot to order it once and they kept shaking it to keep the printer going.


    Always 3 months ago, after putting the new toner to me in the CSRC indicates 2%. For me it is not a big deal but I wanted to know if there is a way to remove this freezing.


    See you soon
  • Synthohol
    Certified Konica Expert

    Site Contributor
    5,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2016
    • 5463

    #2
    Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

    Okay what I have done in the past which may not be as per any book method but I remove the toner bottle and run halftone test patterns until the machine stops and asks for that color I put the new bottle back in and the toner gauge goes up to full hope that works for you
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • kingarthur
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 1201

      #3
      Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

      you can reset the toners to 100%, in enhanced security mode, then turn on engine dipswitch 34 for K, 33 for C 32 for M and 31 for Y
      See tech bulletin TAGB1600062EN
      Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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      • embedded
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 8

        #4
        Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

        I see this (annoying) behaviour all the time. It usually happens when the toner bottle is replaced too soon.
        We just let it run till it actually runs out of toner (which can take a while if the toner was actually changed to a new one).

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        • Hansoon
          Field Supervisor

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          2,500+ Posts
          • Sep 2007
          • 3297

          #5
          Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

          Okay what I have done in the past which may not be as per any book method but I remove the toner bottle and run halftone test patterns until the machine stops and asks for that color I put the new bottle back in and the toner gauge goes up to full hope that works for you
          That's the way I do it, but I am still interested to know about that tech bulletin TAGB1600062EN".

          Hans
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          • tsbservice
            Field tech

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            5,000+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 7635

            #6
            Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

            Nevertheless, this also requires visit at the client site. Definitely worth to find another solution.
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            • ivovb
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Apr 2008
              • 695

              #7
              Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

              Originally posted by embedded
              I see this (annoying) behaviour all the time. It usually happens when the toner bottle is replaced too soon.
              We just let it run till it actually runs out of toner (which can take a while if the toner was actually changed to a new one).
              It is my way, too.

              BR
              I'll never ask if I didn't check user manual, service manual, parts list, BSI/TNI/TAD... web, existing threads.

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              • cristachecri
                Technician
                • Mar 2015
                • 31

                #8
                Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                Hello, everyone. I have many copiers in Bizhub service 280 / 227 / c227 and I have the same problems with the toner feed before displaying the toner refilling on the display. The graphic symbol remains very low but the device works perfectly. There's something you can do about it, a kind of reset for that graphic symbol to come back at 100%. I've been looking for that service bulletin TAGB1600062EN but I can't find him. Can someone help me in this problem or with this service bulletin????

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                • arahael
                  Technician

                  Site Contributor
                  50+ Posts
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 96

                  #9
                  Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                  Engine DipSW from 29-32

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                  • cristachecri
                    Technician
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 31

                    #10
                    Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                    Thank you very much for the prompt response and that is of real benefit to us. Is there anything similar to the copies of the bizhub 364 / c364 series ??? I look forward to your response.

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                    • arahael
                      Technician

                      Site Contributor
                      50+ Posts
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 96

                      #11
                      Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227
                      hi. all i know in xx4 series is that you can reset all toner indicator. with engine dipsw 1

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                      • cristachecri
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 31

                        #12
                        Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                        Originally posted by arahael
                        hi. all i know in xx4 series is that you can reset all toner indicator. with engine dipsw 1
                        I want to reset the toner indicator because I supply new toner bottles with the equipment and when not completely emptied. In this case the toner indicator remains at a low level although the toner is new.

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                        • cristachecri
                          Technician
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 31

                          #13
                          Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                          Originally posted by arahael
                          hi. all i know in xx4 series is that you can reset all toner indicator. with engine dipsw 1
                          thanks for the answer but I have studied all the technical documentation of the xx4 series and have not found dipsw 1. If you have information on how to proceed this toner reset indicator please tell me

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                          • copier tech
                            Field Supervisor

                            5,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 7931

                            #14
                            Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                            Originally posted by Bix
                            Hi,


                            I had read some posts here in the forum about the toner indicator. From what I understand, they do not have a sensor but measure the number of toner rotations to define the amount left.


                            I have a customer with a bizhub C227, monitored with CSRC. For about 3 months the black toner is stuck at 2% while the color level changes regularly.


                            I honestly do not know what the customer has done with the toner. They told me that they forgot to order it once and they kept shaking it to keep the printer going.


                            Always 3 months ago, after putting the new toner to me in the CSRC indicates 2%. For me it is not a big deal but I wanted to know if there is a way to remove this freezing.


                            See you soon
                            Tell the customer to ignore those tiny gauges they are only there as a guide.

                            The toner bottles do not have a chip, so if when the machine shows toner empty, the customer takes the bottle out shakes it & fits it back the machine will rest the toner gauge to full!
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                            • gere1
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 20

                              #15
                              Re: Wrong toner indicator bizhub 227

                              I have this for several teams
                              Activate engine fw
                              Swith software
                              59
                              01


                              stop 0 c
                              Engine fw dipsw
                              C368 and C360i
                              31 yellow
                              32 magenta
                              33 cyan
                              34 black
                              In c364e equipment
                              one
                              Reset all toners




                              go out and turn off equipment
                              translated with google
                              I hope it serves something
                              try in seven or one configuration or another
                              and you already count

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