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  • copyman
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    BizHub 223 end of life?

    Anyone know when or if Kon Min deemed the 223 end of life? I don't see any 223/283 on the end of life reports? Can someone email me the end of life report if they have it with the 223 on it. It came out in 2010 so think it would be in end of life status already.
  • mincopier
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    #2
    Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

    End of life for that machine is 12/2022 according to the Konicaminolta 3 Year end of life report.

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    • qbert69
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      #3
      Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

      Originally posted by copyman
      Anyone know when or if Kon Min deemed the 223 end of life? I don't see any 223/283 on the end of life reports? Can someone email me the end of life report if they have it with the 223 on it. It came out in 2010 so think it would be in end of life status already.
      We're a fairly large company & we're practically giving the 3 series machines away to small churches just to get the service revenue clicks off of them!!![emoji6]

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      • copyman
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        Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

        Surprised to hear that if it was introduced in 2010. That will be more than 10 yrs supporting a machine! I thought it was like 8 yrs when no longer supported. They are good machines and have treated the customer and me very well

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        • blackcat4866
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          Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

          They're based on the bizhub 350 which was basically bulletproof. If you put the two models side-by-each you could hardly tell the difference of the mechanical aspects.

          Only 2 months ago I did a full PM on a bizhub 350. All the parts are still available from KM. Now that shows some respect for the basic platform. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • JR2ALTA
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            #6
            Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

            Originally posted by copyman
            Anyone know when or if Kon Min deemed the 223 end of life? I don't see any 223/283 on the end of life reports? Can someone email me the end of life report if they have it with the 223 on it. It came out in 2010 so think it would be in end of life status already.
            EOL is a meaningless, or least misleading distinction. Parts and support will be available for years and years.

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            • qbert69
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              Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

              Originally posted by JR2ALTA
              EOL is a meaningless, or least misleading distinction. Parts and support will be available for years and years.
              Available as Long as You can get 'em!!![emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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              • darry1322
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                #8
                Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                Originally posted by blackcat4866

                Only 2 months ago I did a full PM on a bizhub 350.
                These days that includes toner hopper solenoids when I do the PM.

                Just ordered a new laser for one today.

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                • copyman
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                  #9
                  Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                  What are the symptoms of a bad / sticking toner solenoid? Thanks

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                  • allan
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                    #10
                    Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                    Originally posted by copyman
                    What are the symptoms of a bad / sticking toner solenoid? Thanks
                    C-2558 and ruined developer. Toner bottle and sub-hopper does not stop turning those kind of things.
                    Nothing thin weather strip like stickers can fix.

                    Its just the amount of fun removing that gearbox!
                    Whatever

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                    • darry1322
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                      Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                      Originally posted by copyman
                      What are the symptoms of a bad / sticking toner solenoid? Thanks

                      When the noise dampening pads on the solenoid plates start going bad they get sticky. When they stick they start over toning the developer until it codes out. I clean the sticky pads off and add a two layer mylar in it's place. Like allan said, it's just a pain getting it stripped down until the hopper assembly comes out.

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                      • Toxic
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                        #12
                        Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                        Today ordered 8 piece of registration roller bushings and registration clutch,they usually wear out at 500-700k.
                        I have one piece of this machine at 1.500.000 clicks and just now its showing this problem with bushings,
                        One of the rare "weak" points on this machines if it could be called weak point at so many prints

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                        • copyman
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                          Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                          That's what I was thinking the sticking solenoid would cause overtoning. I just remembering when i was servicing a lot of the Biz 200/250/350 many of them would run light. Seems like we were changing drums & developers around 30-40k halfway through their life. Been awhile but might have been aftermarket drums & OEM developer.

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                          • allan
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                            Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                            Originally posted by copyman
                            That's what I was thinking the sticking solenoid would cause overtoning. I just remembering when i was servicing a lot of the Biz 200/250/350 many of them would run light. Seems like we were changing drums & developers around 30-40k halfway through their life. Been awhile but might have been aftermarket drums & OEM developer.

                            The transfer contact on these caused light printing.
                            Always tweaked the machines to use less toner for cost saving
                            30 years for the spirit of the Di250 to die...
                            Last edited by allan; 04-12-2019, 03:31 PM.
                            Whatever

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                            • adecanmin
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                              Re: BizHub 223 end of life?

                              Scanning on the 350 is a challenge. Ftp is all I can use. Forget about scan to email.

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