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  • Gina82
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Oct 2017
    • 98

    Bizhub 368e smearing

    I have a bizhub 368e that creates a smear on the first copy only, after the first copy none of the other images have this issue only the very first copy of each job. If I run a job right after it won't happen, only when I let it sit idle for a few minutes and then try again. I've taken the laser unit out and cleaned it, I've checked the drums for wear on the drum but saw none and I have checked the transfer belt to see if there was any wear but I didn't see anything. Ideas?

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  • Bix
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2018
    • 1421

    #2
    Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

    Hey, it could be simpler than expected (but expensive!). In fact, it is likely that you will have to replace it.

    458e image quality black stripe

    Your stain seems to come from the fuser. This for me is a known problem in the 8e series which, oddly enough, already at just 200-250k starts to have problems with strips coming from the fuser roller.

    If you turn it manually and you look at the surface of the fuser roller, you will notice some signs. If you leave it like this, toner build-up will increase and the streak will soon become more noticeable.

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    • Gina82
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Oct 2017
      • 98

      #3
      Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

      Any idea why it only does it on the first copy and no other?

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      • Bix
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2018
        • 1421

        #4
        Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

        Because it probably cleans itself after a cycle and remains dirty in the end. It may be that by increasing the fuser temperature, this problem disappears. Do you use all OEM?

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        • Gina82
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Oct 2017
          • 98

          #5
          Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

          Yes, I use all OEM parts and it doesn't look like there are any dents or creases in the fusing unit. In fact, it actually just stopped, I went away for about an hour and gave it time to sit and re tried it and the copies look totally fine. It's driving me crazy, the parts seem fine but I know something is causing it and I don't want it to come back later

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          • tsbservice
            Field tech

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 7635

            #6
            Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

            Give us total counter and parts life list to start with. Indeed it looks like fuser mark.
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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22703

              #7
              Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

              I think it looks like a mustache.

              Take a look at the primary transfer belt. If you get a puncture or wrinkle in the belt it will fill with toner while passing the primary transfer cleaner leaving you a "mustache" that appears approximately once every 4 pages.
              =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • jwai
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • May 2018
                • 497

                #8
                Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                I have similar issue on 368e also.
                It occurred on first print, ONLY on first copy and 1st paper tray, 2nd to 4th trays and bypass OK.
                I got several pages of first copy on 1st tray, and the smear hold on fixed position.
                Checked drum, transfer unit are all good.

                still not fix this case.....

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22703

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                  Sample? =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • jwai
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • May 2018
                    • 497

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    Sample? =^..^=
                    Please check the attached document, thanks
                    Attached Files

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                    • Woxner
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 810

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                      There is firmware for this issue. You also have to change a dip switch as well. Problem only happens after it sits.

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                      • blazebusiness
                        SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1246

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                        Originally posted by Gina82
                        I have a bizhub 368e that creates a smear on the first copy only, after the first copy none of the other images have this issue only the very first copy of each job. If I run a job right after it won't happen, only when I let it sit idle for a few minutes and then try again. I've taken the laser unit out and cleaned it, I've checked the drums for wear on the drum but saw none and I have checked the transfer belt to see if there was any wear but I didn't see anything. Ideas?

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                        Ditto on the transfer belt unit-----I would check the belt surface for imperfections. Fuser would be my second suspect. Inspect the ITB belt. Then, you could even inspect the ITB cleaner unit and blade.
                        sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                        • jwai
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • May 2018
                          • 497

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                          Originally posted by Woxner
                          There is firmware for this issue. You also have to change a dip switch as well. Problem only happens after it sits.
                          Now the firmware is G00-11
                          Which dipSW need to be changed?

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                          • Synthohol
                            Certified Konica Expert

                            Site Contributor
                            5,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 5463

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                            thats the oldest FW out there.
                            X4 is the latest.
                            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                            The medication helps though...

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                            • Gift
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2413

                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub 368e smearing

                              Can anyone add some feedback about the findings? A tech of mine is currently dealing with exactly the same symptome like the sample in the first post. Guess we should swap the fuser.

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